Okay for the 20+ years that I've been a hip-hop fan, Nas was held in high regards and I heralded him as one of the GOATs, yes even more than Jay-Z. Seeing him bounce back from pumping out mid-plates to a striking run of incredible albums brought me tears of joy, also thanks to Hit-boy. King's Disease have not only rekindled my love towards Nas, but reignited my interest into modern hip-hop.

Now I knew previously that Jay Electronica may have written for him in the past and personally I didn't give a s*** as the album was trash. Originally have thought it was a reference track if that, maybe some lines here and there with Nasir Jones the GOAT doing most of the heavy lifting. Never did I ever know that he had 6 F***ING REFERENCE tracks cooked up for Nas, but someone actually played them on discord.

In addition to this, finding out that Quintin f***ing Miller possibly contributing to his music f***ed me up the most. Always associated that man writing for Drake IYRTITL and could've just remained behind the scene putting in work for newer rappers. I just don't know how to process all this, felt like I've been manipulated and tricked as a fan. Putting on a front about how he's this #1, real genuine rapper only to have writers in the tuck.

To give you an a***ogy, it's the equivalent of meeting this innocent, cute girl only to find out she's been messing around with your close friends for 4 years. Like a form of facade only to have the ugly truth being dug up by others and tainting the image of them.

Real real f***ed up, and think I'll just need time cope with this.

Awww!

Makes sense to me that a lot of rappers would gas out lyrically. Especially once they become famous and there aren’t many new experiences/trials in their life which would make for a good song, other than vague allusions to enemies and people trying to harm their career or whatever.

Your POV is plausible, unfortunate how ghostwriting runs rampant in the realm of hip-hop. From this point all your favorite rappers got their weed carriers or nobodies penning lines for them.

Been saying Jay Elec got top 20 pen

The best case scenario for a late-career rapper is to essentially write the same stories in new songs, a la Pusha T. It kind of feels like he’s almost remaking the same sculpture over and over with a new set of tools. Jay Z pulled off a late-career album which covered new ground, but I don’t expect that to be the norm.

Queens Get the Money is not trash wtf and that might be the biggest Jay elect writing allegation

The Quintin miller thing was debunked since it was just a sample of his voice on a song (can’t remember the song) but that’s why his name was in the credits. As for jay elec, no one’s ever heard these reference tracks (since they probably don’t exist). And AI is so good now that it would be easy to fake them. No ones writing for Nas. Hypothetically speaking though even if they did this man write Illmatic ffs

Quentin Miller thing is false, he’s very closely associated with Surf Club (Hit-Boy’s collective) so he was obviously there for some of the Nas x HB sessions

Ppl just saw him there and went with it

He has like 15 albums and probably slightly over/under a hundred features. Its not that deep if he got help from time to time

Yall really think these rappers wrote anything more than a hundred songs in their catalog, everything else is written by someone else lol

Exactly, I hate the whole Ghost Writers thing.

When it comes down to it people have Ghost “Directors”

And about 10 albums worth of leaked “unreleased” songs

It is that deep WATTBA man

You’re discrediting Nas’ whole career because there’s 6 Jay Elec references floating around out there from 15 years deep into his career and he’s been associated with QM, cmon man.

That’s less music than what’s on Illmatic.

Lil wayne the only rapper left

Anyone have a link to the six reference songs?

Lol have i got a surprise for you

U know what I don’t care I only listen to Live instrumentation now to avoid ghostwriter allegations

Also safe to assume to he put some pen to paper for the Bravehearts too?

Let Cole Down

Lmao quentin LITERALLY SAID HE WROTE FOR NAS

Cut the sample bs

@op

Hip-hop heads are some naive mfs man

It takes a village to make great songs always has and always will, most studio sessions are a communal experience

The idea of a rapper sitting in his bed rooms writing raps in his notepad is a hs kid’s imagination