Honestly, that's the biggest mystery in our existence I think.

We can all be sure the answers yes but to never know is heartbreaking.

We're at a time in our lives where we're intelligent enough to be aware there's an infinite amount for humanity to see and yet we're restricted from ever being able to do anything about it in our lifetimes. Like a child yearning to be out of the play pen.

Nah, this stuff is colored after the fact. They're infared images. Stuff outside the visible spectrum.

How would you know that it's unlikely that intelligent life exists?

The amount of space we can see is nothing compared to what's out there and scientists will tell you we don't even fully understand what we can actually see.

That's not even including the fact that what we do see are literally flashes from billions of years ago. We don't understand how species we've never even seen or know exists can evolve or at what rate.

We have no clue what's out there. Absolutely none.

We use pretty sophisticated math and other measurement techniques to find patterns in our universe.

While there is a lot beyond our understanding, the size of the universe is not a defining factor as to whether or not there is other intelligent life

Btw We are not looking at flashes from billions of years ago out of technological restriction. This is a choice to collect data, there lots of other s*** we could look at but were choosing this

Until our understanding of that changes. As it has time and time again.

Don't you believe that it's a bit arrogant to say we're even 60% sure of things that we'll never see in our Grandchildren's lifetimes. We're trying desperately to put a human on the closest planet to us yet we can say we're pretty sure of things in a frontier we'll never explore.

Feels alot like our understanding of every other frontier that we explore. Whales were sea monsters at one point, we were the center of the universe once, but then we found it was different and that somethings that were just theorized or myth turned out to be a natural part of our ecosystem. Our understanding of space and our place in the universe has changed so many times over the course of just a few thousand years.

We've been using sophisticated math for awhile and again, that changes when we find something new. It seems the lesson that we could learn is that we should keep a very open mind on the subject of the universe because it consistently proves that we simply don't get it.

There is not necessarily a relationship between the difficulty of putting humans on other planets and projecting out patterns in the universe to estimate the chances at biological life.

It makes sense that our sense of place changes in drastic ways earlier on but this should diminish as we collect more data not increase.

There could be other intelligent life sure right now it looks incredibly rare.

If this sounds pessimistic to you I don't feel life has to necessarily be only biological as we understand it and our existence is likely not limited to the universe imo

I believe there is a relationship, as in our limited technology and knowledge.
There could be things we don't have the technology to detect, things we didn't even know we were looking for.
Many people thought dark matter was a myth not long ago.
As you've said you don't believe all life originates the same way but we study and project for it in the same ways using the same frame of reference of which we came about.
I just don't believe we know enough or are advanced enough to make realistic projections yet.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying, but we should definitely not make any declarations about or put a stamp on it like things can't completely change within a century.
Either way I appreciated the dialogue. You made some good points that I want to think more on.

reddit.com/r/space/comments/vys73z/where_in_the_night_sky_exactly_are_the_cosmic

if I come across another "woah we are so small and insignificant" post the heavy bag will suffer

wonder when the next batch is dropping

Fake pics

This is wild

!dream first pictures from James Webb telescope.

!dream Aliens just chilling on Uranus

!dream aliens attacking earth

SCREAMNG

!dream aliens harvesting human colonies

One step closer to finding who asked

nerdy