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  • Jun 15, 2021
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    Today, the state re-opened in a big way and stripped down its mask mandate. With the American economy taking a big hit and families running to Texas and Georgia to live more affordably, let's see how Cali is doing...

    bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-06-14/california-defies-doom-with-no-1-u-s-economy

    It does explain the $75 billion budget surplus that we're running:

    politico.com/states/california/story/2021/05/10/california-has-a-staggering-757b-budget-surplus-1381195

    I thought this might be a good thread to discuss what some of these metrics really mean, how this supposed wealth and innovation trickles down to lower income families, what we value in terms of livability, etc.

    The wealth gap just seems to have increased in the past year. My wife and I pull in nearly 150k a year and having a kid in daycare stretches our budget to the limit. It's ridiculous.

  • Jun 15, 2021

    Normal people cant afford and are moving to Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Texas, New Mexico & Nevada.

    Source, I was one of those peope & know plenty others.

    Nowadays: I dont know I moved because it was unaffordable.

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    So the state is richer because poor people went away basically?

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    But did they come out this pandemic with more water though? Or a way to stop those wild fires?

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    wasnt California always the #1 economy in America? It's a massive ass state that has always carried alot of America's poorer states.

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    crine at people in that other thread calling california the worst state in the country

  • Jun 15, 2021
    Fire Lord

    But did they come out this pandemic with more water though? Or a way to stop those wild fires?

    we cant control how much it rains

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    i wish it reflected in our homeless population and public services

    PG&E should be nationalized

  • Jun 15, 2021
    Fire Lord

    But did they come out this pandemic with more water though? Or a way to stop those wild fires?

    we’re in drought rn

  • Jun 15, 2021

    NY #2, TX #3 according to the article

  • Jun 15, 2021
    Reformed

    wasnt California always the #1 economy in America? It's a massive ass state that has always carried alot of America's poorer states.

    Yes

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    NYC still number 1 city

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    Dont quote me if you're from California you guys let Pop Smoke get killed

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    All those taxes/revenue and the worst homeless problem in the country

    This is why I’ll never be a proponent of raising taxes until we bring in some competent folks to do the books

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    Reformed

    wasnt California always the #1 economy in America? It's a massive ass state that has always carried alot of America's poorer states.

    i believe it used to be NY

  • Jun 15, 2021
    Reformed

    wasnt California always the #1 economy in America? It's a massive ass state that has always carried alot of America's poorer states.

    Based purely on GDP, yeah. But one of the metrics determining that was rate of growth. It was like 22% for California from 2015-2019 in comparison to the country as a whole at 18%. And the state is outpacing a number of relevant allies.

    The hook of this article is the role of renewable energy in job growth and that's become a standout feature of the California economy.

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    Bill Ackman

    All those taxes/revenue and the worst homeless problem in the country

    This is why I’ll never be a proponent of raising taxes until we bring in some competent folks to do the books

    newsom just introduced a $4b bill to fight it so we'll see what it does

  • Jun 15, 2021
    SolidSnaku

    i believe it used to be NY

    CA’s GDP is nearly double NY

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    Can't be right... NY we got work 2 do

  • Jun 15, 2021
    2AM in LA

    newsom just introduced a $4b bill to fight it so we'll see what it does

    it really doesn’t even cost that much looking at the big picture

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    How is NY over Texas, we need a recount

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    How with all those homeless people?

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    Was thinking cities. Sometimes you forget NYC carries the entire state on it's back. Cali has multiple places putting in work

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    m FREE PALESTINE x

    Can't be right... NY we got work 2 do

    ny got one city vs CA w two urban economic centers and an agricultural powerbase

    Oakland handles half of ALL trade on north america’s west coast

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