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  • Jun 10, 2020

    nytimes.com/2020/01/08/world/australia/fires-murdoch-disinformation.html

    theguardian.com/media/2019/may/10/australias-murdoch-moment-has-news-corp-finally-gone-too-far

    These are two instances in the last year of how dangerous he is locally with him spreading misinformation in my country, let alone him owning fox news & WSJ, i think its important to sheered light on him especially how not enough people on here bring his name up with down below his sons criticism on the climate denial on fox news

    theguardian.com/media/2020/jan/14/james-murdoch-criticises-fathers-news-outlets-for-climate-crisis-denial

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    EuroNymous

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/world/australia/fires-murdoch-disinformation.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/10/australias-murdoch-moment-has-news-corp-finally-gone-too-far

    These are two instances in the last year of how dangerous he is locally with him spreading misinformation in my country, let alone him owning fox news & WSJ, i think its important to sheered light on him especially how not enough people on here bring his name up with down below his sons criticism on the climate denial on fox news

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jan/14/james-murdoch-criticises-fathers-news-outlets-for-climate-crisis-denial

    left wing and right wing media are no better than eachother

    the media in general is bias

    its all about picking a team

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    im australian too btw

    you cant tell me the project isnt one of the highest forms of rubbish on tv

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    im australian too btw

    you cant tell me the project isnt one of the highest forms of rubbish on tv

    i am not saying that left isnt without issues i criticised ABC & the project all the time just i think Murdoch empire is more influential overall

    literally the best person i have seen report labor in fair matter is friendlyjordies but he sometimes doesnt bring up the issues labor has, through his videos very well researched

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    DEL_3352

    im australian too btw

    you cant tell me the project isnt one of the highest forms of rubbish on tv

    Right wing media has a deeper propaganda cycle, with a symbiotic relationship with the corporations-politicans-networks that come together to both spoonfeed AND pander to their demographic. The "leftist" media (at least in america) is nowhere near as effective in their tactics as the right is (even at a fringe group level) so I think the Right wing media is worse because their power could lead to very dangerous ideologies being sanitized to the general public.

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    the reds

    Right wing media has a deeper propaganda cycle, with a symbiotic relationship with the corporations-politicans-networks that come together to both spoonfeed AND pander to their demographic. The "leftist" media (at least in america) is nowhere near as effective in their tactics as the right is (even at a fringe group level) so I think the Right wing media is worse because their power could lead to very dangerous ideologies being sanitized to the general public.

    thats simply not true, at least in australia

    here every news station on television is skewed far to the left, the only right wing news company is sky news which isnt even on free to air tv

    the ideologies of the far left are no less poisonous to the population than far right ideologies

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    the reds

    Right wing media has a deeper propaganda cycle, with a symbiotic relationship with the corporations-politicans-networks that come together to both spoonfeed AND pander to their demographic. The "leftist" media (at least in america) is nowhere near as effective in their tactics as the right is (even at a fringe group level) so I think the Right wing media is worse because their power could lead to very dangerous ideologies being sanitized to the general public.

    in the US you have CNN, MSNBC and various others spitting out drivel as opposed to what on the right, fox?

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    thats simply not true, at least in australia

    here every news station on television is skewed far to the left, the only right wing news company is sky news which isnt even on free to air tv

    the ideologies of the far left are no less poisonous to the population than far right ideologies

    i wouldnt consider any mainstream paper left tbh, maybe SMH but even then they quite central in my opinion obvs you can read guardian but even ABC these days has quite a lot of libs influence which has come in

    most mainstream media think pieces are utter garbage here

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    in the US you have CNN, MSNBC and various others spitting out drivel as opposed to what on the right, fox?

    Well the left in the US more akin to slightly left of Center in Europe's standards which creates a natural divide between actual leftists and the white liberals - as opposed to the republican's conservatives moving closer and closer into the alt right. The most popular "leftist" newtork, CNN, discusses policy through intentionally sensationalized arguments that give viewers more ramblings about dumb obvious s*** rather than the actual events and presenting progressive politics through a corporate filter lens as to never go too far into anti-establishment (example: discussing s*** like confederate statues way more than police reform or predatory loans).

    They're bad in many more ways but none as effective or focused as the Right wing media machine.

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    Well the left in the US more akin to slightly left of Center in Europe's standards which creates a natural divide between actual leftists and the white liberals - as opposed to the republican's conservatives moving closer and closer into the alt right. The most popular "leftist" newtork, CNN, discusses policy through intentionally sensationalized arguments that give viewers more ramblings about dumb obvious s*** rather than the actual events and presenting progressive politics through a corporate filter lens as to never go too far into anti-establishment (example: discussing s*** like confederate statues way more than police reform or predatory loans).

    They're bad in many more ways but none as effective or focused as the Right wing media machine.

    you literally described every mainstream liberal media here right there

    something like ABC, SMH or even the project (garbage show) are similar to that maybe little more left through while sky news = fox news (literally the exact same thing) and its got me worried they play that s*** in rural Australia when its easier to be brainwashed by it (exact reason i am worried)

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    Murdoch is an awful net negative for society

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    thats simply not true, at least in australia

    here every news station on television is skewed far to the left, the only right wing news company is sky news which isnt even on free to air tv

    the ideologies of the far left are no less poisonous to the population than far right ideologies

    do you unironically believe anything on Australian tv is far left?

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    in the US you have CNN, MSNBC and various others spitting out drivel as opposed to what on the right, fox?

    oh I see

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    didn't know the project was the "far left"

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    left wing and right wing media are no better than eachother

    the media in general is bias

    its all about picking a team

    left wing media doesn’t exist on the same level as right wing media though

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    left wing media doesn’t exist on the same level as right wing media though

    dude is spewing straight bs, the s*** we have over in Australia is at most center-left at best (the guardian)

    it's the same as when conservatives talk about "cnn being far left"

    there is no left movement in Australia

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    where is this far left media I hear so much about

    I'm tryna hear some marxist theory when i'm drinking my coffee in the morning

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    thats simply not true, at least in australia

    here every news station on television is skewed far to the left, the only right wing news company is sky news which isnt even on free to air tv

    the ideologies of the far left are no less poisonous to the population than far right ideologies

    Ahahhahahah you are delusional thinking that all our tv news is left leaning. Are you watching the same free to air i am.

    Even f***ing waleed perpetuates right wing bullshit

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    Resurrected Ducks

    where is this far left media I hear so much about

    I'm tryna hear some marxist theory when i'm drinking my coffee in the morning

    same

  • Jun 10, 2020

    Realistically every news outlet will pander to their audience, lull and subdue, and nothing will actually change and we will all die when the earth snaps

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    Resurrected Ducks

    where is this far left media I hear so much about

    I'm tryna hear some marxist theory when i'm drinking my coffee in the morning

    literally doesn't exist here or in America dumb c***s like Alan jones (thank f*** his gone) or sky news hacks would attack the f*** out of that s***

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    i am not saying that left isnt without issues i criticised ABC & the project all the time just i think Murdoch empire is more influential overall

    literally the best person i have seen report labor in fair matter is friendlyjordies but he sometimes doesnt bring up the issues labor has, through his videos very well researched

    Jordies is an ALP stooge. Fairly certain he gets paid by them at this point. Not sure about any of his real ideological standpoints really, he comes off as a boring socdem from what I've seen, although his critiques of the liberal party while obvious are all valid

    Australian politics is pretty depressing in general though, there is no real leftist movement at all, bushfires will get us all soon anyway so oh well

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    DEL_245

    Jordies is an ALP stooge. Fairly certain he gets paid by them at this point. Not sure about any of his real ideological standpoints really, he comes off as a boring socdem from what I've seen, although his critiques of the liberal party while obvious are all valid

    Australian politics is pretty depressing in general though, there is no real leftist movement at all, bushfires will get us all soon anyway so oh well

    i think my problem with Jordies while he is great attacking any liberal policy but he has habit which from watching more and more stanning for Labor and bashing on leftists (fine with him bashing buzzfeed or medium) but i rarely speak on greens which on paper have those more traditional labor policies ran unlike albo which is moderate at best

    through what happen today with greens member at cook isnt good

    who do you reckon is worse gladys or scomo?

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    Ahahhahahah you are delusional thinking that all our tv news is left leaning. Are you watching the same free to air i am.

    Even f***ing waleed perpetuates right wing bullshit

    bro....

    all they push is identity politics

    identity politics is left wing ideology

    chances are you dont see it though because you (like most people on here) are left wing, so in your mind its normal

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    DEL_3352

    bro....

    all they push is identity politics

    identity politics is left wing ideology

    chances are you dont see it though because you (like most people on here) are left wing, so in your mind its normal

    "all they push is identity politics"

    uhh pretty sure they cover other stuff mate. How often do you watch the news, and which channels? I see channel 9 news almost every night (i hate it) and it does not push identity politics at all. If anything it mostly just pushes ads to the highest bidder, often the big supermarkets. I also see the project sometimes, and that can be pretty left leaning but still pushes LNP bullshit the other half of the time. Even some ABC shows are skewed one way or the other depending on the segment. I put this down to their defunding.
    In the end you're thinking lazily and making massive generalisations.

    "identity politics is left wing ideology"

    please explain to me your interpretation of the phrase identity politics and tell me how it's only left wing

    "chances are you dont see it though because you (like most people on here) are left wing, so in your mind its normal"
    thanks for the ad hominem bro

    This is my logic ive put together for privately owned news: Because it is owned by a person(s), and they would likely have a higher amount of money than the average person, it would not be within their best interest to perpetuate left wing views. I'm sure Packer isn't a lefty lmao. As far as i'm concerned it simply comes down to money.

    If all tv news is left wing I'd wonder how on earth we have a right wing government. Do you think that the majority of australians arent brainwashed couch potatos? Because I certainly do