What are some Pivotal moments in Hip-Hop that changed the Standards of how things are done.
For example: If you was beefing with somebody and they dissed you on a record.
Back then you could take as much time as you wanted replying to a diss record.
But when Drake Dropped Back To Back. S*** changed.
The new standard became you had to drop as fast as possible or you would be seen as the loser. iirc
Another Example is illmatic.
I could be wrong but.
Before illmatic the norm for alot of albums was
One Producer and then the artists did their thing.
But with illmatic Nas had alot of Producers that would later all become household names.
Although there were alot of different producers the cohesiveness of the album stayed.
And to this day illmatic is still seen as the Definitive Rap Album.
Ironically now we see Nas with just Hit Boy now and hes having alot of success off of that old formula.
But What are some other moments in Hip Hop that changed how artists go about things.
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Kanye outselling 50
Did this bring the first week sales wars?
Was that the start?
very simple answer that you cannot argue.
the 1977 NY blackout. look it up if you don't know. i'm convinced hiphop wouldn't even exist in today's form if it wasn't for that blackout
Jay not writing, Wayne not writing
Wayne making double cups “cool” (even tho that’s mostly over)
Travis vocal chain
Chief Keef being the hood Justin Bieber
Drake finessing public perception after TML flopped
Kendrick having basically no direct influence on the next generation of rappers
Atlanta’s fall (ongoing)
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very simple answer that you cannot argue.
the 1977 NY blackout. look it up if you don't know. i'm convinced hiphop wouldn't even exist in today's form if it wasn't for that blackout
and that goes for hiphop, and bootlegging culture, and mixtape culture, and real house music and some aspects of internet piracy.
Push not responding “in 24 hours” disproved that
He replied in 4 days.
Where in op I said people would take months to reply to a diss.
Meek took forever to respond as well.
He replied in 4 days.
Where in op I said people would take months to reply to a diss.
Meek took forever to respond as well.
Did this bring the first week sales wars?
Was that the start?
That I personally remember but basically solidified the direction of sound that labels could view as successful. No coincidence that Graduation came out at the end of 2007 and then subsequently a new rise of artists who were more akin to Kanye (backpacking or internet/blog type) than 50
Oh the sudden shift from slowed down/ downer friendly music 2 sped up/ addy/upper friendly stuff
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What are some Pivotal moments in Hip-Hop that changed the Standards of how things are done.
For example: If you was beefing with somebody and they dissed you on a record.
Back then you could take as much time as you wanted replying to a diss record.
But when Drake Dropped Back To Back. S*** changed.
The new standard became you had to drop as fast as possible or you would be seen as the loser. iirc
!https://youtu.be/XHYG2crLab4Another Example is illmatic.
I could be wrong but.
Before illmatic the norm for alot of albums was
One Producer and then the artists did their thing.
But with illmatic Nas had alot of Producers that would later all become household names.
Although there were alot of different producers the cohesiveness of the album stayed.
And to this day illmatic is still seen as the Definitive Rap Album.
Ironically now we see Nas with just Hit Boy now and hes having alot of success off of that old formula.
But What are some other moments in Hip Hop that changed how artists go about things.
Inspired by @giorno_giovanna
that drake s*** is totally false btw were you not into hiphop in the mid to late 00s ?
That drake part was so unnecessary and strictly to suck d*** lol
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How so
The difference in ppl responding to disses before back to back is extreme
This was def a "moment" for sure
Did this bring the first week sales wars?
Was that the start?
no but close, 50 started this on this own way before that. that's what makes the graduation moment even bigger. Kanye beat 50 at his own game.
The NWA/2 Live Crew obscenity trials
Ooof that's a great one ! not only for hiphop but for every form of art or expression
that drake s*** is totally false btw were you not into hiphop in the mid to late 00s ?
I didn't really start listening till 2007