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  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Feb 11, 2020
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    Enpax

    I have a solution: give reparations to the black community in the form of billions of dollars given directly to black leaders for the purpose of developing the infrastrucure/school system stuff like that, but don’t tell the white people that they’re reparations

    It’s a win win

    So they can run game on us and run off with a pocket full of money? Hell no lmaoooooooo.

    Black leaders, black billionaires, etc are no different than any other people in power. All greedy, all of them take advantage for their own benefits. All in the game baby.

  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Feb 11, 2020
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    Honestly dont know how reparations would even work at this point. But it feels like a distraction. It wont happen any time soon if ever. It comes off mostly as a ridiculous hypothetical to stir the pot and cause fake outrage from people who think it's 'unfair'

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    Liberals only pretend to be “allies” to convince minorities to support their cause but will never actually do anything to help them

  • Feb 11, 2020
    Nuja

    So they can run game on us and run off with a pocket full of money? Hell no lmaoooooooo.

    Black leaders, black billionaires, etc are no different than any other people in power. All greedy, all of them take advantage for their own benefits. All in the game baby.

    By Black leaders I don’t mean rappers and twitter influencers lol, I mean the people in actual administrative control over majority black areas like the school boards, city councils, stuff like that. If not, the money can go to communities in the form of a trust where members can vote on how to divide their allotted funds between different projects

  • Feb 11, 2020
    Cudderwalks

    Liberals only pretend to be “allies” to convince minorities to support their cause but will never actually do anything to help them

    U mean hilary clinton aint actually a real one that started from the bottom and carries hot sauce in her purse to remind her of her roots?

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    Reparations is the easiest thing to solve.

    Take the top 1000/2000 companies and give 50% (pick a percentage) of the shares to black Americans. Holy s***, I solved a problem without involving tax payers.

    I should be f***ing president

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    Progressive

    Reparations is the easiest thing to solve.

    Take the top 1000/2000 companies and give 50% (pick a percentage) of the shares to black Americans. Holy s***, I solved a problem without involving tax payers.

    I should be f***ing president

    then you’d have to basically ensure those companies don’t go under and that their shares all basically reflect the same value per person. or make it completely randomized and spread out in a chaotic ass fashion so that it’s balanced.

    also those companies SHOULD be taxpayers

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    DickerSpaniel

    then you’d have to basically ensure those companies don’t go under and that their shares all basically reflect the same value per person. or make it completely randomized and spread out in a chaotic ass fashion so that it’s balanced.

    also those companies SHOULD be taxpayers

    Yeah, 50% is probably too much but the actual number would be agreed upon.

    SP500 market cap is 26Trillion / Divide by 40 Mill = 325k per person at 50% equity . That’s just the top 500 companies, adujust to top 2000-3000 companies with a smaller equity share

    Yeah shared would reflect same value per person, companies semi-randomized. The companies also have the opportunity to buy back the shares at a slight discount.

    You could make this s*** work for sure but greedy corps and politicians (including Bernie) would never go for this s***

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    lotta posts in here from a neo-nazi on how to solve reparations and they all suck, imagine that

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    First president to instate reparations will also require a DNA database of all african Americans in the United States. Will you play along?

  • Feb 11, 2020
    SIGH

    First president to instate reparations will also require a DNA database of all african Americans in the United States. Will you play along?

    Why would this be an issue?

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    KimJongUn

    lotta posts in here from a neo-nazi on how to solve reparations and they all suck, imagine that

    Please refrain from calling anyone a neo nazi when you scream death to Isr****.

    Someone tell me why I am not surprised that the delivery boy has zero constructive input in this thread.

  • Feb 11, 2020
    Cudderwalks

    Liberals only pretend to be “allies” to convince minorities to support their cause but will never actually do anything to help them

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    Nuja

    So they can run game on us and run off with a pocket full of money? Hell no lmaoooooooo.

    Black leaders, black billionaires, etc are no different than any other people in power. All greedy, all of them take advantage for their own benefits. All in the game baby.

    Imagine Creflo getting our reparation money

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    being liberal and supporting reparations, the greatest combo of all

    • massive scholarship fund or guaranteed free college for 4 years
    • trade school is completely free and apprenticeship is guaranteed post
    • business incentives and subsidies for all black business owners + default-free loans
    • small black-owned businesses do not pay a corportate income tax, franchises do not pay a franchise tax, and all black businesses do not pay a personal property replacement tax
    • majority black primary and secondary education + HBCU's are granted full funding for at least the next 2 decades

    instill these and within the next 20 years you'll see black participation in higher education skyrocket + a much stronger financial presence in the market (independent, and not solely under employment).

    a simple stipend isn't gonna do s***. if you want to reform our society, the key is through education and business.

    but we're still in argument over f***ing universal healthcare, so this just seems like a pipe dream

  • Feb 11, 2020

    How about reparations in the form of free tuition to any universities African Americans are accepted?

  • Feb 11, 2020

    If hey actually did this the hoops you’d have to jump thru would be offensive as f***

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    Nuja

    Honestly dont know how reparations would even work at this point. But it feels like a distraction. It wont happen any time soon if ever. It comes off mostly as a ridiculous hypothetical to stir the pot and cause fake outrage from people who think it's 'unfair'

    Yeah. It’s a pretty loaded question to ask tbh.

    Pro-reparations = gotta hear b****ing from people thinking it’s not fair

    Anti- reparations = gotta hear from people thinking u racist

    And we all know it’s not happening anyway so they only ask this to get a reaction outta one of the two sides

  • Feb 11, 2020

    Liberals are not your allies.

  • Feb 11, 2020

    U know the govt would say that if your family came here after 1864 you ain’t getting s***

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    I need some serious answers to something regarding reparations. I don't want to sound confrontational, I genuinely want to be educated on the subject. I've read various editorials from people like Ta-Nehisi Coates and some others and they don't seem to really answer these questions. I know there's no real consensus on this, but still.
    From what I understand, most people want reparations in the form of cash redistribution. Logistics aside, these same people typically seem to be staunchly against UBI, since "UBI doesn't solve fundamental structural/cultural issues".To me, this seems the same reasoning typically used against reparations - I'm not sure how you can think that of one and not the other though (this isn't an argument for UBI).
    Alternatively, I've seen reparations often proposed in the form of just directly investing in black/minority communities (which I think makes sense), but I've also seen a level of pushback against this typically for cash redistribution instead. However, to a degree, those types of investments have happened already, right? Just been implemented very poorly or crookedly? Is that typically the argument here, that historically since attempts at doing so have been so bad, they'd rather settle for symbolic cash redistribution? This is again ignoring logistics for a second.

  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Feb 11, 2020
    CactusJackSentYa

    Yeah. It’s a pretty loaded question to ask tbh.

    Pro-reparations = gotta hear b****ing from people thinking it’s not fair

    Anti- reparations = gotta hear from people thinking u racist

    And we all know it’s not happening anyway so they only ask this to get a reaction outta one of the two sides

    Spot on

  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Feb 11, 2020
    Astronaut

    Imagine Creflo getting our reparation money

    Lmfao

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    krishna bound

    I need some serious answers to something regarding reparations. I don't want to sound confrontational, I genuinely want to be educated on the subject. I've read various editorials from people like Ta-Nehisi Coates and some others and they don't seem to really answer these questions. I know there's no real consensus on this, but still.
    From what I understand, most people want reparations in the form of cash redistribution. Logistics aside, these same people typically seem to be staunchly against UBI, since "UBI doesn't solve fundamental structural/cultural issues".To me, this seems the same reasoning typically used against reparations - I'm not sure how you can think that of one and not the other though (this isn't an argument for UBI).
    Alternatively, I've seen reparations often proposed in the form of just directly investing in black/minority communities (which I think makes sense), but I've also seen a level of pushback against this typically for cash redistribution instead. However, to a degree, those types of investments have happened already, right? Just been implemented very poorly or crookedly? Is that typically the argument here, that historically since attempts at doing so have been so bad, they'd rather settle for symbolic cash redistribution? This is again ignoring logistics for a second.

    Not speaking for anyone besides myself, but I don't like the idea of investing in "our" communities. Few reasons:

    1) anytime funding gets alloted to something, much of it fails to ever actually reach the stated recipients. Administration issues/fees/salaries, etc eat up a ton of funding that's supposed to be given to schools, for example.

    2) in the event that the funding actually goes where it's intended to, there's nothing that makes "our" communities ours, aside from them being predominantly black. So if you just invest in infrastructure and make no other changes, low wage black people who live in "our" communities are just going to get priced out by this masked gentrification. Once the communities are nice and deemed safe and have quality amenities and attractions, white people will move right on in until there's more white people than black people in what was once considered "our" communities.

    3) in the event that #1 happens the way it's supposed to, and #2 doesn't happen, I'd like to point you to the destruction of Black Wallstreet as evidence that even when we have had our own burgeoning infrastructure, it didn't stop white men from destroying it at a whim. I have no confidence that the same wouldn't happen again, given the chance.

    4) that "40 acres and a mule" never actually came, so we don't actually have evidence that we'd fumble the bag if given strict cash settlements, and even if we did have evidence of that, I don't see that being a sufficient argument against reimbursing our people financially for the various longstanding traumas endured. This shouldn't be looked at as pops giving us allowances as long as we spend it wisely; it should be economic justice in response to systemic economic disenfranchisement brought on by longstanding racism.

    5) with 1-4 being as they are, I want a check with no strings attached. We'll get the money and have the freedom to do whatever tf we want with it, including leaving this country forever if we so wish. Some will invest, some will start businesses, some will blow it all on Gucci and Louie. Doesn't matter.

  • Feb 11, 2020
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    reparations are cool but have you considered a revolution where black, native, and poor workers take back land and wealth from the capitalists and settler colonialists like what happened all across africa and asia throughout the mid 20th century