KimJongUn

4y

reparations are cool but have you considered a revolution where black, native, and poor workers take back land and wealth from the capitalists and settler colonialists like what happened all across africa and asia throughout the mid 20th century

FRANK DUX

4y

how about instead of reparations white people stop pretending to care about black people

i geniuenly dont care about yall as a collective, so why would u care about me

KimJongUn

4y

my man you're an alt-right weirdo and a trump stan, why do you feel the need to interject

Astronaut

4y

Not speaking for anyone besides myself, but I don't like the idea of investing in "our" communities. Few reasons:

1) anytime funding gets alloted to something, much of it fails to ever actually reach the stated recipients. Administration issues/fees/salaries, etc eat up a ton of funding that's supposed to be given to schools, for example.

2) in the event that the funding actually goes where it's intended to, there's nothing that makes "our" communities ours, aside from them being predominantly black. So if you just invest in infrastructure and make no other changes, low wage black people who live in "our" communities are just going to get priced out by this masked gentrification. Once the communities are nice and deemed safe and have quality amenities and attractions, white people will move right on in until there's more white people than black people in what was once considered "our" communities.

3) in the event that #1 happens the way it's supposed to, and #2 doesn't happen, I'd like to point you to the destruction of Black Wallstreet as evidence that even when we have had our own burgeoning infrastructure, it didn't stop white men from destroying it at a whim. I have no confidence that the same wouldn't happen again, given the chance.

4) that "40 acres and a mule" never actually came, so we don't actually have evidence that we'd fumble the bag if given strict cash settlements, and even if we did have evidence of that, I don't see that being a sufficient argument against reimbursing our people financially for the various longstanding traumas endured. This shouldn't be looked at as pops giving us allowances as long as we spend it wisely; it should be economic justice in response to systemic economic disenfranchisement brought on by longstanding racism.

5) with 1-4 being as they are, I want a check with no strings attached. We'll get the money and have the freedom to do whatever tf we want with it, including leaving this country forever if we so wish. Some will invest, some will start businesses, some will blow it all on Gucci and Louie. Doesn't matter.

Astronaut

4y

Not speaking for anyone besides myself, but I don't like the idea of investing in "our" communities. Few reasons:

1) anytime funding gets alloted to something, much of it fails to ever actually reach the stated recipients. Administration issues/fees/salaries, etc eat up a ton of funding that's supposed to be given to schools, for example.

2) in the event that the funding actually goes where it's intended to, there's nothing that makes "our" communities ours, aside from them being predominantly black. So if you just invest in infrastructure and make no other changes, low wage black people who live in "our" communities are just going to get priced out by this masked gentrification. Once the communities are nice and deemed safe and have quality amenities and attractions, white people will move right on in until there's more white people than black people in what was once considered "our" communities.

3) in the event that #1 happens the way it's supposed to, and #2 doesn't happen, I'd like to point you to the destruction of Black Wallstreet as evidence that even when we have had our own burgeoning infrastructure, it didn't stop white men from destroying it at a whim. I have no confidence that the same wouldn't happen again, given the chance.

4) that "40 acres and a mule" never actually came, so we don't actually have evidence that we'd fumble the bag if given strict cash settlements, and even if we did have evidence of that, I don't see that being a sufficient argument against reimbursing our people financially for the various longstanding traumas endured. This shouldn't be looked at as pops giving us allowances as long as we spend it wisely; it should be economic justice in response to systemic economic disenfranchisement brought on by longstanding racism.

5) with 1-4 being as they are, I want a check with no strings attached. We'll get the money and have the freedom to do whatever tf we want with it, including leaving this country forever if we so wish. Some will invest, some will start businesses, some will blow it all on Gucci and Louie. Doesn't matter.

Astronaut

4y

Not speaking for anyone besides myself, but I don't like the idea of investing in "our" communities. Few reasons:

1) anytime funding gets alloted to something, much of it fails to ever actually reach the stated recipients. Administration issues/fees/salaries, etc eat up a ton of funding that's supposed to be given to schools, for example.

2) in the event that the funding actually goes where it's intended to, there's nothing that makes "our" communities ours, aside from them being predominantly black. So if you just invest in infrastructure and make no other changes, low wage black people who live in "our" communities are just going to get priced out by this masked gentrification. Once the communities are nice and deemed safe and have quality amenities and attractions, white people will move right on in until there's more white people than black people in what was once considered "our" communities.

3) in the event that #1 happens the way it's supposed to, and #2 doesn't happen, I'd like to point you to the destruction of Black Wallstreet as evidence that even when we have had our own burgeoning infrastructure, it didn't stop white men from destroying it at a whim. I have no confidence that the same wouldn't happen again, given the chance.

4) that "40 acres and a mule" never actually came, so we don't actually have evidence that we'd fumble the bag if given strict cash settlements, and even if we did have evidence of that, I don't see that being a sufficient argument against reimbursing our people financially for the various longstanding traumas endured. This shouldn't be looked at as pops giving us allowances as long as we spend it wisely; it should be economic justice in response to systemic economic disenfranchisement brought on by longstanding racism.

5) with 1-4 being as they are, I want a check with no strings attached. We'll get the money and have the freedom to do whatever tf we want with it, including leaving this country forever if we so wish. Some will invest, some will start businesses, some will blow it all on Gucci and Louie. Doesn't matter.

Progressive

4y

Reparations is the easiest thing to solve.

Take the top 1000/2000 companies and give 50% (pick a percentage) of the shares to black Americans. Holy s***, I solved a problem without involving tax payers.

I should be f***ing president

KELYE

4y

Yes I agree. The best way reparations would work (in my opinion) is given to areas where given the resources, foundations etc it would the community

Progressive

4y

Please refrain from calling anyone a neo nazi when you scream death to Isr****.

Someone tell me why I am not surprised that the delivery boy has zero constructive input in this thread.

FRANK DUX

4y

i think brother malcolm agrees with me