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  • Nov 3, 2020
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    edit: just to be clear, i personally don’t care who celebs support or if they speak out or not, i just thought this was an interesting point

    So to be clear she wasn’t blaming Jay, she did bring up a good point though

    TL;DW: She basically said, Jay-Z was outspoken about Obama and Hilary, but why hasn’t he said anything about Biden?

    My guess is because of the Crime bill which he understandably has some sour feelings towards

    But with this being such an important election, wouldn’t he come out in support as well? Or does he not want to get f***ed in taxes? (also understandable tbh)

    15:23

    SIDE NOTE: I really like her. I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but she seems really rational, and a deep thinker, as well as unbiased

    For example, she said “everyone asks who’s paying these hip hop artists when they come out in support of Trump, but why doesn’t anyone question it when they come out in support for the Democrats? You don’t think they are getting paid for that also?”

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    all this s*** he’s done and y’all still want more

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    I'll ask him at dinner

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    Pinhead

    all this s*** he’s done and y’all still want more

    i don’t want more, i personally don’t care what celebrities do or who they support, that is their own personal decision

    however, i do think she brought up an interesting point which may shine light on a deeper issue

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    Also there's so much lost context when discussing the crime bill.

    1. It wasn't all bad. Let's just get that out the way. Established the s***offender registry, the Violence Against Women Act (which republicans killed) and a federal ban on assault weapons (which republicans also killed). There's some other stuff too but that's the s*** I remember. Where it really went wrong was mandatory minimums, the 3 strikes bs and making a slew of things harsher offenses.

    2. It was bipartisan. Whenever republicans bring it up they're acting in extraordinarily bad faith as if they didn't want a harsher bill.

    3. It was a popular idea amongst the electorate at the time. Crime in America had been on a steady rise since the 60s and peaked in the 90s. Everyone wanted an answer. The crime bill was that answer. A largely ineffectual answer however. Some people will attribute the fall in crime to the crime bill. Those people are wrong. The crime bill was in almost no way preventative. It was reactionary. The best way to lower crime is to prevent it from happening in the first place. No, not like Minority Report, but by addressing the cause. What's the #1 cause of crime? Poverty. The economic prosperity of the 90s was the main driving force behind lower crime rates. Not the crime bill, not stop & frisk, and not ballooning police budgets. The amount of people in poverty was also on a steady rise since the 60s before plummeting in the 90s. Not so coincidentally, as the middle class expanded during one of the greatest periods of economic growth, crime rates contracted.

    All that nuance, but instead we get, "Biden wrote and passed the crime bill all by himself and then he and Hillary celebrated by calling black people predators." and people eat that s*** up because it's simpler to understand.

  • Nov 3, 2020

    the answer is clear

    he's voting for kanye

  • Nov 3, 2020
    hot pancakes

    i don’t want more, i personally don’t care what celebrities do or who they support, that is their own personal decision

    however, i do think she brought up an interesting point which may shine light on a deeper issue

    wasn’t speaking to you personally, more so about her

  • Nov 3, 2020
    Pinhead

    Also there's so much lost context when discussing the crime bill.

    1. It wasn't all bad. Let's just get that out the way. Established the s***offender registry, the Violence Against Women Act (which republicans killed) and a federal ban on assault weapons (which republicans also killed). There's some other stuff too but that's the s*** I remember. Where it really went wrong was mandatory minimums, the 3 strikes bs and making a slew of things harsher offenses.

    2. It was bipartisan. Whenever republicans bring it up they're acting in extraordinarily bad faith as if they didn't want a harsher bill.

    3. It was a popular idea amongst the electorate at the time. Crime in America had been on a steady rise since the 60s and peaked in the 90s. Everyone wanted an answer. The crime bill was that answer. A largely ineffectual answer however. Some people will attribute the fall in crime to the crime bill. Those people are wrong. The crime bill was in almost no way preventative. It was reactionary. The best way to lower crime is to prevent it from happening in the first place. No, not like Minority Report, but by addressing the cause. What's the #1 cause of crime? Poverty. The economic prosperity of the 90s was the main driving force behind lower crime rates. Not the crime bill, not stop & frisk, and not ballooning police budgets. The amount of people in poverty was also on a steady rise since the 60s before plummeting in the 90s. Not so coincidentally, as the middle class expanded during one of the greatest periods of economic growth, crime rates contracted.

    All that nuance, but instead we get, "Biden wrote and passed the crime bill all by himself and then he and Hillary celebrated by calling black people predators." and people eat that s*** up because it's simpler to understand.

    i know, i brought up the crime bill as a possible reason why Jay Z hasn’t expressed support for Biden like he has for other democratic candidates in the past

    edit; she didn’t mention it, that was brought up just for my own personal reasoning

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    Perhaps he doesn't want to have an influence if he doesn't actually feel compelled by Biden. Perhaps he realizes that we're on a predetermined track no matter who gets voted in, since both major parties are ultimately controlled by similar interests.

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    Perhaps it's not any of our f***ing business

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    Jason

    Perhaps it's not any of our f***ing business

    yeah i agree as i said i personally don’t care who celebs support and if they speak out or don’t

    i just thought it was interesting, because i haven’t thought about it before

    he was outspoken about the precious dems but not now

    is it because he is underwhelmed by Biden/Harris (let’s be honest, we all are) or, does he want to keep his tax breaks under the republican party?

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    Lmao I will never understand why these niggas look to celebs or entertainers on politics

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    Pinhead

    all this s*** he’s done and y’all still want more

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    rayray

    Lmao I will never understand why these niggas look to celebs or entertainers on politics

    It’s quite literally the dumbest s*** I’ve ever seen and I blame it entirely on Twitter culture and social media in general.

  • Nov 3, 2020
    rayray

    Lmao I will never understand why these niggas look to celebs or entertainers on politics

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    Cause hes super rich and is gonna vote Donald

  • Nov 3, 2020

    It’s “Where’s Hoffa?” not “Where’s Hov?”

  • El Nigga

    Cause hes super rich and is gonna vote Donald

  • Nov 3, 2020

    Why do yall need celebrities to tell you who to vote for

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    Because jay z doesn’t care

    All that black empowerment s*** him & Bey do is just a front

    Stop asking for them for help

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    Sunny Sun

    Because jay z doesn’t care

    All that black empowerment s*** him & Bey do is just a front

    Stop asking for them for help

    So secretly paying people for bails and donating money is a front

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    No Color

    I'll ask him at dinner

  • Nov 3, 2020
    Prison Mike

    So secretly paying people for bails and donating money is a front

    Compare that to Roc nation & his COO being awful people

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    Pinhead

    Also there's so much lost context when discussing the crime bill.

    1. It wasn't all bad. Let's just get that out the way. Established the s***offender registry, the Violence Against Women Act (which republicans killed) and a federal ban on assault weapons (which republicans also killed). There's some other stuff too but that's the s*** I remember. Where it really went wrong was mandatory minimums, the 3 strikes bs and making a slew of things harsher offenses.

    2. It was bipartisan. Whenever republicans bring it up they're acting in extraordinarily bad faith as if they didn't want a harsher bill.

    3. It was a popular idea amongst the electorate at the time. Crime in America had been on a steady rise since the 60s and peaked in the 90s. Everyone wanted an answer. The crime bill was that answer. A largely ineffectual answer however. Some people will attribute the fall in crime to the crime bill. Those people are wrong. The crime bill was in almost no way preventative. It was reactionary. The best way to lower crime is to prevent it from happening in the first place. No, not like Minority Report, but by addressing the cause. What's the #1 cause of crime? Poverty. The economic prosperity of the 90s was the main driving force behind lower crime rates. Not the crime bill, not stop & frisk, and not ballooning police budgets. The amount of people in poverty was also on a steady rise since the 60s before plummeting in the 90s. Not so coincidentally, as the middle class expanded during one of the greatest periods of economic growth, crime rates contracted.

    All that nuance, but instead we get, "Biden wrote and passed the crime bill all by himself and then he and Hillary celebrated by calling black people predators." and people eat that s*** up because it's simpler to understand.

    The funny thing is the crime bill is actually good

    But in terms of liberal ideas it is a bad thing And goes against their worldview which is why it is pointed out

  • Nov 3, 2020

    Cause jay z is fake as f***?