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  • Oct 29, 2020

    I’ve seen this term used to refer to “fake leftists” often but I don’t know what it actually means? Please educate me. Is Biden a neo liberal?

  • Oct 29, 2020

    Yes biden is a neoliberal

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    Privatization of public services, globalization, carceral state, austerity measures etc.,

  • Oct 29, 2020

    idk but if Biden is a neo liberal then what are the 18, 19, 20 something liberals called because he is really conservative in comparison to us lol

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    yea i’m curious too what’s the difference between “liberal” and “neoliberal”

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    A neoliberal believes in the supremacy of market-based solutions, in privatization of public services, in a global consensus for capitalism, in maximizing as many profits as possible because they say the urge for profits is what drives humanity forwards. They believe in free trade and think taxation can solve many of society's woes. They support institutions such as the EU, the IMF or the World Bank.

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    Oct 29, 2020
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    ARCADE GOON

    A neoliberal believes in the supremacy of market-based solutions, in privatization of public services, in a global consensus for capitalism, in maximizing as many profits as possible because they say the urge for profits is what drives humanity forwards. They believe in free trade and think taxation can solve many of society's woes. They support institutions such as the EU, the IMF or the World Bank.

    And how is this different from regular liberals?

  • Oct 29, 2020

    Why’d you delete that s*** p****

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    EMY

    And how is this different from regular liberals?

    Are you using the American word for liberal or the normal meaning?

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    Oct 29, 2020
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    ARCADE GOON

    Are you using the American word for liberal or the normal meaning?

    American unfortunately

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    Neoliberalism is a term which means a lot of different things; you probably aren't going to get a consistent answer which you like. If we're talking non-colloquially and historically, "neoliberalism" refers to a set of mixed, market-oriented politics which is ultimately pro-capitalism but also egalitarian, but also not libertarian because it believes in a level of regulation and government bureaucracy, as well as globalism from both a cultural (i.e. borders) and economic (i.e. trade) perspective.
    Liberalism vs Neoliberalism is distinct (strictly historically) in that Liberalism is essentially an egalitarian deregulatory philosophy which advocates individualist-centric policy and typically laissez-faire through lack of regulation and enhancement of private sector. Neoliberalism on the other hand is an evolution of liberalism which attempts to maintain the "cultural" aspect of modern liberalism (i.e. individualist-policy) but advocating for economic privatization complemented by regulated government policy; i.e. things like bail-outs, private funding, strong banks, etc. as opposed to laissez-faire, but still keeping laissez-faire in terms of theoretical market structure for individuals rather than business.
    However, these are more historical terms; the terms "liberal" and "neoliberal" do not refer to these things in colloquial speech, especially not by internet leftists/right populists. "Liberal" in modern speech tends to mean values unaligned with conservative traditionalism - i.e. values set essentially by a market rather than by a cultural force. On the other hand, neoliberalism - which is especially used by leftists but also increasingly by right populists - differs really depending on who you ask. The real implication of neoliberal by pundits who lean left or populist tends to mean people who's political and socio-cultural beliefs are formed solely by market opinion or attempting to either elevate or perpetuate a system without change, especially not economically or culturally; i.e. similarirties/parallels to discourse of Menshevik vs Bolshevik. Neoliberalism is essentially used as a slang for someone who has no real values or cultural beliefs besides what is set at a given time by the capitalist market, but still wishes despite those values to perpetuate both the market and its power structures.

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    Much love

    You're gonna do great things big man

    Amazing artist, KTT Icon, overall eloquent genius

    Wishing you all the best in the future, stay classy papa pinetree

  • Oct 29, 2020
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    EMY

    American unfortunately

    In the USA, liberal is as catch-all phrase for anything left of the center. A liberal in the USA might be called a social democrat elsewhere. A social democrat is different from a neoliberal in that a social democrat believes that the welfare state can smooth the edges of capitalism. A social democrat is also more likely to support "free" and public education or public healthcare and so on rather than private market-based solutions.

    A neoliberal believes capitalism is fine as is.
    A social democrat believes the worst parts of capitalism can be avoided via welfare and high taxation.
    A democratic socialist believes that capitalism is untenable and can slowly be reformed into socialism without needing a revolution.

  • Oct 29, 2020
    krishna bound

    Neoliberalism is a term which means a lot of different things; you probably aren't going to get a consistent answer which you like. If we're talking non-colloquially and historically, "neoliberalism" refers to a set of mixed, market-oriented politics which is ultimately pro-capitalism but also egalitarian, but also not libertarian because it believes in a level of regulation and government bureaucracy, as well as globalism from both a cultural (i.e. borders) and economic (i.e. trade) perspective.
    Liberalism vs Neoliberalism is distinct (strictly historically) in that Liberalism is essentially an egalitarian deregulatory philosophy which advocates individualist-centric policy and typically laissez-faire through lack of regulation and enhancement of private sector. Neoliberalism on the other hand is an evolution of liberalism which attempts to maintain the "cultural" aspect of modern liberalism (i.e. individualist-policy) but advocating for economic privatization complemented by regulated government policy; i.e. things like bail-outs, private funding, strong banks, etc. as opposed to laissez-faire, but still keeping laissez-faire in terms of theoretical market structure for individuals rather than business.
    However, these are more historical terms; the terms "liberal" and "neoliberal" do not refer to these things in colloquial speech, especially not by internet leftists/right populists. "Liberal" in modern speech tends to mean values unaligned with conservative traditionalism - i.e. values set essentially by a market rather than by a cultural force. On the other hand, neoliberalism - which is especially used by leftists but also increasingly by right populists - differs really depending on who you ask. The real implication of neoliberal by pundits who lean left or populist tends to mean people who's political and socio-cultural beliefs are formed solely by market opinion or attempting to either elevate or perpetuate a system without change, especially not economically or culturally; i.e. similarirties/parallels to discourse of Menshevik vs Bolshevik. Neoliberalism is essentially used as a slang for someone who has no real values or cultural beliefs besides what is set at a given time by the capitalist market, but still wishes despite those values to perpetuate both the market and its power structures.

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    krishna bound

    Neoliberalism is a term which means a lot of different things; you probably aren't going to get a consistent answer which you like. If we're talking non-colloquially and historically, "neoliberalism" refers to a set of mixed, market-oriented politics which is ultimately pro-capitalism but also egalitarian, but also not libertarian because it believes in a level of regulation and government bureaucracy, as well as globalism from both a cultural (i.e. borders) and economic (i.e. trade) perspective.
    Liberalism vs Neoliberalism is distinct (strictly historically) in that Liberalism is essentially an egalitarian deregulatory philosophy which advocates individualist-centric policy and typically laissez-faire through lack of regulation and enhancement of private sector. Neoliberalism on the other hand is an evolution of liberalism which attempts to maintain the "cultural" aspect of modern liberalism (i.e. individualist-policy) but advocating for economic privatization complemented by regulated government policy; i.e. things like bail-outs, private funding, strong banks, etc. as opposed to laissez-faire, but still keeping laissez-faire in terms of theoretical market structure for individuals rather than business.
    However, these are more historical terms; the terms "liberal" and "neoliberal" do not refer to these things in colloquial speech, especially not by internet leftists/right populists. "Liberal" in modern speech tends to mean values unaligned with conservative traditionalism - i.e. values set essentially by a market rather than by a cultural force. On the other hand, neoliberalism - which is especially used by leftists but also increasingly by right populists - differs really depending on who you ask. The real implication of neoliberal by pundits who lean left or populist tends to mean people who's political and socio-cultural beliefs are formed solely by market opinion or attempting to either elevate or perpetuate a system without change, especially not economically or culturally; i.e. similarirties/parallels to discourse of Menshevik vs Bolshevik. Neoliberalism is essentially used as a slang for someone who has no real values or cultural beliefs besides what is set at a given time by the capitalist market, but still wishes despite those values to perpetuate both the market and its power structures.

    Pretty much this. Historically, neoliberalism was something you would generally use to describe the economic policies of Reagan, Thatcher, or Pinochet. People now call Biden neoliberal, but it's pretty obvious he is not campaigning on a platform anywhere near these other leaders

  • Oct 29, 2020
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    Mtsiggy

    Much love

    You're gonna do great things big man

    Amazing artist, KTT Icon, overall eloquent genius

    Wishing you all the best in the future, stay classy papa pinetree

    thanks man, you too

    hope life is all good, we'll have to DM at some point

  • Oct 29, 2020

    Based on laissez-faire capitalism

    Economists which associated with it are Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, and James M. Buchanan,

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    John Mauve

    thanks man, you too

    hope life is all good, we'll have to DM at some point

    My last request is you share the TNGHT sxn radio preview I made earlier

    vocaroo.com/11dh9wEm3nAZ

  • Oct 29, 2020
    Mtsiggy

    My last request is you share the TNGHT sxn radio preview I made earlier

    https://vocaroo.com/11dh9wEm3nAZ

    will do man

    this is fire

  • Oct 29, 2020
    Mtsiggy

    My last request is you share the TNGHT sxn radio preview I made earlier

    https://vocaroo.com/11dh9wEm3nAZ

    everyone thinks this is super fire btw and wishes they could make something close to this good

  • OP
    Oct 29, 2020
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    ARCADE GOON

    In the USA, liberal is as catch-all phrase for anything left of the center. A liberal in the USA might be called a social democrat elsewhere. A social democrat is different from a neoliberal in that a social democrat believes that the welfare state can smooth the edges of capitalism. A social democrat is also more likely to support "free" and public education or public healthcare and so on rather than private market-based solutions.

    A neoliberal believes capitalism is fine as is.
    A social democrat believes the worst parts of capitalism can be avoided via welfare and high taxation.
    A democratic socialist believes that capitalism is untenable and can slowly be reformed into socialism without needing a revolution.

    Thank you for educating me my man!

    Never woulda guessed a nigga named ARCADE GOON would be the most educated man on KTT lol

  • Oct 29, 2020

    pro capitalism / free market (conservative) but pro left social issues

  • Oct 30, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    In the USA, liberal is as catch-all phrase for anything left of the center. A liberal in the USA might be called a social democrat elsewhere. A social democrat is different from a neoliberal in that a social democrat believes that the welfare state can smooth the edges of capitalism. A social democrat is also more likely to support "free" and public education or public healthcare and so on rather than private market-based solutions.

    A neoliberal believes capitalism is fine as is.
    A social democrat believes the worst parts of capitalism can be avoided via welfare and high taxation.
    A democratic socialist believes that capitalism is untenable and can slowly be reformed into socialism without needing a revolution.

    interesting
    I think I’m a social Democrat