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In order to be follow up on the last thread as it was locked due to my lack of clarity, I want to discuss the atrocities concerning what the government of China is doing to the Muslims and what the government of Israel is doing to the Palestine people.

Both of the nations’ leaders are committing genocidal acts upon the opposing people, but in China there is no fight back whatsoever. It is an ethic cleansing, sterilization and erasure of culture.

In Israel, there is a fight back but not as strong or as profound as it should be, as Israel has the help of America behind it due to being surrounded by neighbouring countries that threaten their existence on the daily.

In reality, both the governments of Israel and China are committing horrendous actions that are violating human rights acts, as such, what is stopping people from acknowledging what China is doing as genocide as these same people are easy to be against the government of Israel for what they are doing? These are the same people under one religion, overall, who are being persecuted by neighbouring people who are against them, all the while members of the Israeli nation are being subjugated by attacks from neighbouring Muslim nations as well.

In order to be follow up on the last thread as it was locked due to my obvious bait, I want to faux-discuss the atrocities concerning what the government of China is doing to the Muslims and what the government of Israel is doing to the Palestine people so it can seem like I have an argument, but I really just want to bait people.

First, I will simply state two events, and compare and contrast the differing characteristics. Both of the nations’ leaders are committing genocidal acts upon the opposing people, but in China there is no fight back whatsoever. It is an ethic cleansing, sterilization and erasure of culture. In Israel, there is a fight back but not as strong or as profound as it should be, as Israel has the help of America behind it due to being surrounded by neighbouring countries that threaten their existence on the daily.

Then, I will offer no a***ysis at all, but it seems like there is a***ysis because it is a long paragraph. I am doing this because I do not want this thread to be locked. Both the governments of Israel and China are committing horrendous actions that are violating human rights acts, as such, what is stopping people from acknowledging what China is doing as genocide as these same people are easy to be against the government of Israel for what they are doing? These are the same people under one religion, overall, who are being persecuted by neighbouring people who are against them, all the while members of the Israeli nation are being subjugated by attacks from neighbouring Muslim nations as well. I am literally just babbling and making incoherent claims. I don't know what my claim is but I will act like I do and make these paragraphs so the bait can continue.

i feel like ppl very clearly explained to you why people approach the situation differently

like multiple people with very nuanced takes explained why there’s a difference in perception

not necessarily disagreeing with you but i think the way you’re framing this is a little odd and you were given an answer as to why framing it this way isn’t the best way to go about this argument

people are literally dying over this & op is more concerned about dunking on people on an online forum

Lmao imagine if a user mocked the holocaust in this manner

They’d be perma’d instantly

i dont understand why you need to compare both situations like this. it's weird as f***. like you're trying to set up a "gotcha!!"
what's being done to palestinians and uyghurs is ethnic cleansing.

That’s exactly why OP is comparing both situations

this is a meta dunk. space cadets post is an attempted dunk

we’re all the same ur just seein what u want to see. don’t be blind to the literal first reply of dis thread

op’s been in threads all day talking about how he thinks “Death to Israel” means you want to kill civilians, not the government, even though multiple people explained to him that that’s incorrect, & he’s been trying to dunk on people for being skeptical of the sources about the China stuff by comparing it to Israelis killing Palestinians

very sus behavior. he’s been twisting people’s words & using misleading comparisons. i’d say he was shilling if i hadn’t seen him post outside this sxn before.

Because that's a very sane conclusion to reach

Never has a state been destroyed without bloodshed of civilians

This is what im talking about -- you can't even critically THINK about these accusations without being called a genocide denier.

Like I dont know why yall give so much of a f*** about me for being skeptical, or even remaining neutral about this. Just chill the f*** out.

I dont know anything about China. You don't either. However, what I do know is that if we look throughout history, and even our recent history, we can see the dangers of believing western information in regard to "human rights violations." Look at the Falon Gong s***. That was entirely CIA propaganda. Look at the Nariyah testimony. Look at what they say towards the DPRK. Look at what they said to justify the Iraq War. China's economy is about to overtake the U.S, so the reasons for creating casus beli are even doubly so.

If the entire population believes it, then there is casus belli. The government really cares about what you think because it gives them a reason for war or sanctions. I choose to remain in the middle bc of this.

Look -- I don't shill for China. I want people to live their life without being oppressed or killed.I just want to hopefully bring some perspective and critical thought before engorging yourself in western press. Unequivocally believing these accusations without critically thinking and a***yzing the material history before us will just allow us to fall into the same thought patterns, and the same material harm that Western Europe has enacted globally for the last half a millenium.

We disagree enough so I'll keep it brief

Even if the Uighur genocide is made up, china wont harmed at all. No one is insane enough to invade China. Not america, not anyone

The worst that the allegations do is make china look bad. Wont people think of the poor Chinese government!

US & NATO

China literally has these camps and calls them training camps to reeducate terrorist they're detaining without due process.

What are you even saying?

Also "What do you know about China"
?????????????
Why is China the only country you need to have a vast understanding about to talk about something you wouldn't be fine with in your own country.

Also the DPRK is a s***hole so elaborate on why anyone should care and how it is at all relevant.

You can tell the communists want to defend china so bad lmao. Communism is trash get over it

For real, China is quite literally telling you they're trying to lower their birth rates and that they're putting them in "vocational" training centers.

China literally runs its own media, how the f*** are we going to get any source from them on what's really happening on the ground?

How is the US getting someone to falsely testify the equivalent of getting every western media agency and Chinese Ambassadors themselves to agree that they're putting people in little "Vocational" training centers against their will and trying to modulate their birth rate?

And idgaf about the communist s*** but this is ridiculous lmao. You're not even debunking claims. It's just saying you don't trust any of the news on it like its some massive conspiracy

everyone adds my photos i have great avys

Everytime these conversations happen, someone utters without fail
"The US is going to go to war with China"

War weary Americans
Going to war
With a World power??????

Who the f*** wins in a US/China war scenario lmao. The most China and the US would ever have is a proxy war.

Weirdos keep posting about quite literal boots on the ground wars with China.
Like what era is this?

This next tablespoon is in your honor

Also critically think?

What critical thinking even goes on in these threads. It's just hyper skepticism in the most vague context. You aren't debunking individual sources, you're ignoring the entire idea of wrongdoing on behalf of China in regards to the Uighur people.

It's not like you're debunking some post about China harvesting organs from the Uighurs.

You literally drop first page into threads and go "PROPAGANDA, WESTERN PROPAGANDA, LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THE WEST HAS DONE, WEST BAD, CIA CIA"

Where exactly is the critical thinking here? You literally operate with "The west is bad" as your modus operandi? Lmao wtf

You wrote all that for what. Dude is angry over the internet. Have fun sponsoring the new cold war ^_^

Because I can. You keep coming to these threads and then running away to go back to s***posting.

Like don't you have IRL homework nigga