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  • Jan 13, 2022
    ghosting

    ktt data collector

    cop out then

  • Jan 13, 2022
    daisycutterflowz

    The way modern institutions handle arts is absolutely terrible

    Calling it “art school” is really stretching the definition of “school”

  • Jan 13, 2022

    #LawGang

  • Jan 14, 2022
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    daisycutterflowz

    The way modern institutions handle arts is absolutely terrible

    Niggas hate on the art schools way too hard tbh

    You right in the way students are taught that anything goes, and the values are so much more complex compared to a couple decades ago when there was a more implicit consensus on art/music/fashion.
    But most schools do teach the academy and tradition at one end, and personal free expression at the other, as well as giving you the opportunity to be taught technqiues and basics that can be interpreted by the student how they wish.

    Not to mention more focused degrees like decorative art, textiles etc that teach direct skills with uses not only in the art world but in other sectors.

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    math fifty

    And Law Schools dont even care what undergrad degree you have

    So if you wanna be a lawyer half the battle is figuring out what to fall back on if law school doesnt work out

    Mannnnnn I know too many people that are in career limbo after multiple failed attempts passing that LSAT exam. Same with premeds too regarding MCATs.

    All them Psychology and Biology majors are f***ed if they don't get into their desired professional grad programs.

  • Jan 14, 2022

    It's not sustainable. When this system bursts the blowback is going to land on these colleges selling useless degrees and paying administrators overblown salaries.

    Almost half of he current colleges will be gone by 2030. Don't sleep.

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    DREAM OF FLY HIGH

    Niggas hate on the art schools way too hard tbh

    You right in the way students are taught that anything goes, and the values are so much more complex compared to a couple decades ago when there was a more implicit consensus on art/music/fashion.
    But most schools do teach the academy and tradition at one end, and personal free expression at the other, as well as giving you the opportunity to be taught technqiues and basics that can be interpreted by the student how they wish.

    Not to mention more focused degrees like decorative art, textiles etc that teach direct skills with uses not only in the art world but in other sectors.

    Maybe I just went to a s***ty art school, even though it's recognized as one of the best public arts colleges in the US, but we had no guidance from professors other than a vague prompt, no technique/skill based learning, barely even any "networking". Certainly no academic studying. One mandatory class for my major (painting) was pretty much just my professor selling us her friends' books, and us having high school level Socratic seminars about the book. At that point in my academic "career" I'd lost all hope, so I didn't even bother reading the s*** and I still aced the class I should note that I also had no painting background, but my advisor in my first year which was just "general art" before selecting a major recommended I go into painting, and of course we went on to not learn a single thing about technique. Sure, I "learned on my own", but is this worth thousands in tuition? Most of my learning was done on my own time, outside of studio hours. Why did I spend all that money on a s***ty school, where their recommended "professional course" after graduating was to enroll in an overseas program where you pay THOUSANDS to do MORE studio work and crit F*** that s***. From my experience at the very least, it's a scam. Enrolling in a legitimate, private atelier, or even just learning on your own, is a far better investment for an artist than to go to public arts school. I genuinely learned more about painting from my art history classes.

    I should note by "school" I'm mainly talking about the painting program. The program I had told my original advisor I was interested in, he bluntly responded that it wasn't for me and that I would be wasting my tuition by taking it. I took his word for it, I guess I'm the dumbass. But even then, thousands in tuition? Still seems like an absurd excess.