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  • Apr 6, 2022
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    he's washed to an extent

  • Apr 6, 2022

    I liked it on 4:44 tbh

    But itbwas kinda weird at first

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    HFM

    Did you listen to 4:44

    is this implying that he didn't adopt a new approach across the majority of that album or what? i can't tell

    there were obviously joints like Marcy Me where he was still flowing like we were used to from him.

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    Stantm4444

    “He’s a genius”

    “It’s spoken word.”

    These are all excuses for getting old and not being able to keep up with the beat anymore

    old ppl lose rhythm

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    i swear he always used to rap like that?

  • Apr 6, 2022
    dapagod

    old ppl lose rhythm

    Its true that the hearing goes with age lol, but I assure you Jay aint need no hearing aids, the listeners do.

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    Stantm4444

    “He’s a genius”

    “It’s spoken word.”

    These are all excuses for getting old and not being able to keep up with the beat anymore

    This is where I disagree. I think it's very much purposeful, but I wouldn't call it "genius" lol. The approach had to grow on me for 4:44 but I appreciate more on that album now.

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    The first couple bars reminds me of I Love The Dough

    bEliEve it Either
    I'd bE like, "jay-Z's a chEater," I wouldn't listen to rEason Either
    All I know is hE’s a felon, how is hE sellin'?
    WEEd, the CalEva brothers, dEEp down, I bElieve you love us, huh
    FEast your eyes, the pIEce unique, it's sapphire

    Those are all rhyming with the long E sound

    Then hes switches it up

    Feast your eyes, the piece unique, it's sapphIRE
    Rappers lIARs, I don't do satIRE

    Three words that end in the same rhyme.

    Then switches it up again to rhyme words with a short I sound in it.

    Neither I nor my wrist move mockIngly
    Y'all spend real money on fake watches, shockIngly
    They put me on lIsts with these niggas inexplIcably
    I put your mansIon on my wall, are you s***tIn' me?
    I blew bird money, y'all talkin' TwItter feed
    We got dIfferent Saab stories, save your solIloquies
    They like, "If bIg was alive, Hov wouldn't be In hIs posItIon"
    If bIg had survived, y'all would have got The CommIssIon
    Hov was gon' always be Hov
    It 'twas the unIverse wIll 'cause Allah said so, and now I'm here

  • Stantm4444

    I agree, I hated 4:44 for this very reason. He was off beat during his live show during that era as well.

    4:44 was still the best he’s sounded since American Gangster lol.
    But yea Jay flow before he retired was on a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL compared to where he is now

  • Apr 6, 2022
    BIGGWAVE

  • Apr 6, 2022

    Nigga old

  • He only uses these features to talk to his audience so the actual flow is probably secondary.

  • Apr 6, 2022
    BIGGWAVE

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    Don’t get me wrong, he’s still my favorite rapper ever, but ever since 4:44 he’s on the spoken word flow.

    Meek feat on What’s Free - Spoken word

    On the JayElec album it was the same

    On the Drake feat from CLB, the same.

    I miss when Jay would flow with the beat instead of talking over it

    a lot of songs here he flowed accordingly but frequently he doesn’t like you said and i agree it’s kind of annoying

  • Apr 6, 2022

    Conversational flows

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  • Apr 6, 2022

    Horrendous flow man. 4:44 unplayable to me other than Marcy Me

  • RareRarFiles

    its that basquiat flow op you wouldnt get it

  • aLIEN

    op is not wrong

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mON6_EQfQFI

    Classic

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    He more abstract now, like a poet. I f*** with it

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    He still on time tho, y’all just think it’s only one way you can rap on a beat

  • earthwalka

    He more abstract now, like a poet. I f*** with it

    Its all refined craft. His skill level is just making it look easy

  • Fivi

    he's washed to an extent

  • Apr 6, 2022
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    HFM

    Did you listen to 4:44

    I love 4:44, but you gotta admit he wasn’t really riding the beats

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    p r o v i d e r

    This is where I disagree. I think it's very much purposeful, but I wouldn't call it "genius" lol. The approach had to grow on me for 4:44 but I appreciate more on that album now.

    Yeah it fit for 4:44, but I don’t need that on every song he does now