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  • Orangutan 馃Η
    Sep 13

    Omniscient: knowing everything

    In the Christian religion, Lucifer (the devil) was originally an angel.

    If God is omniscient, he would know that Lucifer would challenge him, causing Lucifer to be sent to hell. This would lead to Lucifer tempting Eve to sin, which would lead to all the sin and suffering in our world today.

    Why would an omniscient God create a being that he knew would lead to the corruption of his creation?

    I'm currently in the process of trying to figure out what I believe, so any answer from any view point would be appreciated.

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    We love Jesus but she done learned a lot from satan

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    God is ultimately accomplishing a greater good through all the evil that the devil brings about.

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    he knew he'd be bored as f*** with no haters

  • garetare 馃オ
    Sep 13
    aLIEN

    Pictured: god

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    I mean how are you supposed to know good without evil?

    They go hand and hand

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    God created angels, who are all part God, Lucifer was an angel who was jelly because he saw people praise god and wanted it, so the fact he became jelly and turned on God means that God chooses to be good, he is capable of being evil but good wins always, Lucifer chose to be evil, it鈥檚 a good vs evil dynamic

  • To challenge mankind and give 'em somethin to fight for

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    It's all part of the process,

    Omniscient but free will providng God had already made Lucifer, if you read the Bible it never says he was doing evil in heaven,

    You ever work a job and it b that one overachieving annoying person who's a bit too into it and everything n s***; so much so that people begin to not like him.. that's what the Bible expressed about Lucifer,

    And God wasn't with that all, not letting the new guy change s*** around! ( s***t Jesus is still waiting on the keys to the kingdom )

    Since Lucifer was so gung-ho bout heaven it would make sense that if he'll existed, Hell would jus be a more lit version of heaven

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    To make life a lil spicy

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    @op Most of what the majority of Christians know regarding lucifer and satan is skewed by non biblical fiction books and stories. Lucifer for one, isn't Satan. Lucifer isn't really in the bible besides one line I believe. There's a lot of history behind why these two got linked together but they are not one in the same, Lucifer is not the name of Satan, and to another extent almost everything most believe about Hell isn't actually based on religious texts either.

  • Orangutan 馃Η
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    Sep 13
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    CLB repent

    God is ultimately accomplishing a greater good through all the evil that the devil brings about.

    but why would he allow a scenario where millions will burn in hell to move forward, instead of creating being to live in euphoria with no desire to sin?

  • CLB repent

    God is ultimately accomplishing a greater good through all the evil that the devil brings about.

    Exactly

  • Orangutan 馃Η
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    Sep 13
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    @op Most of what the majority of Christians know regarding lucifer and satan is skewed by non biblical fiction books and stories. Lucifer for one, isn't Satan. Lucifer isn't really in the bible besides one line I believe. There's a lot of history behind why these two got linked together but they are not one in the same, Lucifer is not the name of Satan, and to another extent almost everything most believe about Hell isn't actually based on religious texts either.

    I'd be really interested to dig further into this. any good reading on this you'd recommend?

  • Tadow 馃
    Sep 13

    You're assuming God is benevolent

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    checkmate christians

  • garetare 馃オ
    Sep 13
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    Orangutan

    I'd be really interested to dig further into this. any good reading on this you'd recommend?

    The Bible

  • Orangutan

    I'd be really interested to dig further into this. any good reading on this you'd recommend?

    Dante's Inferno and Paradise Lost are probably the two most influential books, but if you really would like to understand you should probably read books from the Bible first and realize how little it actually says about Satan/Hell and how it's absolutely nothing like the majority of hardcore Christians believe it is. I still have yet to figure out how people that get together once a week to read parts of the bible don't actually realize this more often

  • garetare

    The Bible

    For real

  • He created Free will

  • Sep 13
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    what is more meaningful, a planet of robots created with no choice but to worship god, or a planet of beings that have the option to choose evil but still choose god?

    I鈥檓 still working out what I believe too, but this is always how I鈥檝e answered that question.

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