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  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Millionaire

    this is most labels...

    No it isnt.

    Most labels have at least 1 big artist that usually carries the rest - with ovo its Drake but Drake isnt a literal artist on the label.

    Ovo is not a indie grassroots label. And its one of the biggest failures from a label of a known artists label, let alone the literal biggest Rapper.

    Yes, most rapper owned labels dont do well overall or fall apart, but almost all of them (that were a serious imorint and not like a group name being called a "label") had one or two successful people.

    The main excuse for ovo back in the day was that its too early, well its not early anymore. Its almost 15 years.

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Seismic

    You're right, Drake didn't do anything for Party's career, my mistake.

    You mean writing for rihanna like from the writer camp he was with before who manages his writings

    I guess you know Party more than Party himself

    And writing for someone still does nothing for his own career

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Water Giver

    You mean writing for rihanna like from the writer camp he was with before who manages his writings

    I guess you know Party more than Party himself

    And writing for someone still does nothing for his own career

    Writing one of the biggest songs of 2016 did nothing for his career? Are you sure you're not trolling?

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Water Giver

    No it isnt.

    Most labels have at least 1 big artist that usually carries the rest - with ovo its Drake but Drake isnt a literal artist on the label.

    Ovo is not a indie grassroots label. And its one of the biggest failures from a label of a known artists label, let alone the literal biggest Rapper.

    Yes, most rapper owned labels dont do well overall or fall apart, but almost all of them (that were a serious imorint and not like a group name being called a "label") had one or two successful people.

    The main excuse for ovo back in the day was that its too early, well its not early anymore. Its almost 15 years.

    Drake releases through OVO...

    But if we keepin it real I dont think the goal of OVO is to push the artists. Most of them that are signed are producers and songwriters who happen to want to release music as artist.

  • Jun 21, 2024
    Tilia

    No youre not lmao

    this post got me crine tf u mean how u know who he like

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Drake doesnโ€™t give a s*** about Canada outside of the Toronto bubble

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Drake is like cell from dbz. Mf just sucks all of their energy for himself

  • Nigga been a hated never wanted to get outshined so he signed a bunch of singers

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Seismic

    Writing one of the biggest songs of 2016 did nothing for his career? Are you sure you're not trolling?

    Here you go talking in circles again

    Party has been connecting to Rihanna before Work and has done major songs before ovo

    Being a writer is not being "put on". No one outside of interent nerds know who writes what. Which means it does nothing for him as a personal artist.

    I did not say he was broke, of course Work paid if thats what youre hinting at, but that is not putting as an actual artist

    Now when you can find actual backing for words youre saying then let me know. Because i actually have numbers, general audience engagement & Party himself that is saying the opposite of your personal opinion.

    Unless you are PartyNextDoor.

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    registration

    push went from washed Coke rapper that is only relevant because of drake to a legend!!!

    glad youโ€™re maturing TML!!!

    glad yall calling out that alt for being @thankmelater.

    • Drake stan
    • calls people โ€œlow iqโ€ for having a different opinion of Drake than him
    • sounds like a b**** on her period in every post
  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Water Giver

    Here you go talking in circles again

    Party has been connecting to Rihanna before Work and has done major songs before ovo

    Being a writer is not being "put on". No one outside of interent nerds know who writes what. Which means it does nothing for him as a personal artist.

    I did not say he was broke, of course Work paid if thats what youre hinting at, but that is not putting as an actual artist

    Now when you can find actual backing for words youre saying then let me know. Because i actually have numbers, general audience engagement & Party himself that is saying the opposite of your personal opinion.

    Unless you are PartyNextDoor.

    Going from a songwriter as Jahron B with no placements to signing with Drake and working with Rihanna, Travis, Beyonce, Kanye, SZA etc.

    You're def right man, ya got me

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Millionaire

    Drake releases through OVO...

    But if we keepin it real I dont think the goal of OVO is to push the artists. Most of them that are signed are producers and songwriters who happen to want to release music as artist.

    He is the also the head - i mean he isnt a general artist that got aigned to it - its literally his imprint.

    I agree to a degree, but also the artists are sold a lie then which is a whole seperate thing.

    Drake could also have made a writers firm or a producer camp as well instead of fein label thats acting for aspiring artists.

    I agree with it in the way Drake probably sees it, but i disagree on what the artists themselves thought what it was plus its still being labeled, well, a label. And it just looks bad as the biggest Rapper imo. If you didnt want a label and have responsibilities over careers in the lane of individual artists than he shouldnt have done one.

    I think this idea or explanation would work if 90 percent of them werent upset. I just think people like Party and Majid stay because they also have other talents they can push themselves such as writing (party) and production (production) which keeps them living and busy while most of the others dont have that luxury or extra talent(s).

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Nigga said PND and Majid Jordan are huge because of writing credits lol

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Water Giver

    He is the also the head - i mean he isnt a general artist that got aigned to it - its literally his imprint.

    I agree to a degree, but also the artists are sold a lie then which is a whole seperate thing.

    Drake could also have made a writers firm or a producer camp as well instead of fein label thats acting for aspiring artists.

    I agree with it in the way Drake probably sees it, but i disagree on what the artists themselves thought what it was plus its still being labeled, well, a label. And it just looks bad as the biggest Rapper imo. If you didnt want a label and have responsibilities over careers in the lane of individual artists than he shouldnt have done one.

    I think this idea or explanation would work if 90 percent of them werent upset. I just think people like Party and Majid stay because they also have other talents they can push themselves such as writing (party) and production (production) which keeps them living and busy while most of the others dont have that luxury or extra talent(s).

    Yea agree for the most part. But I don't know what the artists really expected. OVO literally does nothing to even make you think its a label vs just a brand. You would never know these people were even on OVO if you didnt look at label credits on their music.

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Seismic

    Going from a songwriter as Jahron B with no placements to signing with Drake and working with Rihanna, Travis, Beyonce, Kanye, SZA etc.

    You're def right man, ya got me

    Hes written for people and done s*** like kidzbob before ovo and was with a writers camp/agency already so idk what youre talking about

    Just like Frank Ocean before most knew him

  • Jun 21, 2024
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    Water Giver

    Hes written for people and done s*** like kidzbob before ovo and was with a writers camp/agency already so idk what youre talking about

    Just like Frank Ocean before most knew him

    "before most knew him"

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    Nigga said PND and Majid Jordan are huge because of writing credits lol

    Yeah idk what bro rambling in circles about and he actung like he wasnt already connected ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€

    He genuinely doesnt know what "put on" means

  • Jun 21, 2024
    JeffersonSteelflex

    Nigga said PND and Majid Jordan are huge because of writing credits lol

    Vibe never recovered from that excessive d*** use as a yute ๐Ÿ˜ด

  • Jun 21, 2024
    Block Muteson

    Most support he ever gave Tory was for shooting Meg

    actually mad he rode out for someone cos his d***sucking came off as flattery when he stole drake sound for years

  • Jun 21, 2024
    Water Giver

    Yeah idk what bro rambling in circles about and he actung like he wasnt already connected ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€

    He genuinely doesnt know what "put on" means

    using that logic Starrah is a superstar ๐Ÿค”

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
    Millionaire

    Yea agree for the most part. But I don't know what the artists really expected. OVO literally does nothing to even make you think its a label vs just a brand. You would never know these people were even on OVO if you didnt look at label credits on their music.

    Agreed. And i do agree some of the fault is on them too.

    Only thing i can say is that if people do really-really want to leave I hope Drake makes it easy for them to-do so if it makes sense (like theyre not literally skipping out on undo duties or whatever).

    A rappers label is always 50/50 you gotta be for sure youre situation is good or be a day 1 himie with the lead.

  • Jun 21, 2024

    Why did this thread get 15 pages lmao what is there to even discuss

  • Jun 21, 2024
    JeffersonSteelflex

    Nigga said PND and Majid Jordan are huge because of writing credits lol

    If you're talking about me I said PND, I just mentioned Majid when it came to that 2010s era of Toronto artists having buzz lol

  • I will shoot Drake some bail, I think he really tried to put on my Muslim brothers: Halal Gang. Hahaha but then they kinda ruined it for everyone.

  • Water Giver ๐Ÿ’ง
    Jun 21, 2024
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    Seismic

    "before most knew him"

    Yeah and Franks writing isnt "put on" nor what people know him for ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€