bigmancam 🏕️Jan 19, 2021
TdotFinancing a phone with a carrier isnt bad if they offer a subsidy for it
yeah its like deferring payments type credit card. if you add it all up its the same price as buying it straight up
Jan 19, 2021·1 reply
SynopsisIn the scenario where he makes 200 and the worker makes one hundred? he did make additional money, because he put in more labor. You can't exploit yourself. This is the scenario that would occur if everyone was paid a fair wage. you get out what you put in, so to speak. no exploitation occurs.
But also the point is, we aren't starting from zero. We have people who have never had a chance to have access to capital, who were shut out from the means of production, who were left with nothing to sell but their labor. therefore, the whole ownership process is illegitimate to me. these people had access to some sort of capital, and have used it to create a system that reproduces itself in perpetuity. sure, jeff bezos had an idea, but he also got a 300k loan and was not from a class of people historically shut out from the economic process. also, an idea only goes so far. is it not the workers who are keeping his wealth growing? and those workers are exploited.
and again like i said, fair=/= equal
but, i don't actually know if its possible under capitalism. why? because capitalism demands profits. how is profit created? the extraction of surplus value. and the extraction of that surplus value demands that a fair wage isn't paid.
now, if, workers owned a store in a democratic, cooperative fashion, all decided that they would use their own surplus value to keep their business running, it would be ok i think. so if 5 workers all created 1000 dollars of value each over the course of the working day, but agreed to only make 700 in wages, so that we have a total of 1500 in surplus value to go towards logistical measures, this can't exploitative because as i said, you cannot exploit yourself.
understood. we definitely don't agree on most of this but I respect your line of thought.
Jan 19, 2021MCNunderstood. we definitely don't agree on most of this but I respect your line of thought.
tell him hes stupid and keep it moving bro
Ye24 🧢Jan 19, 2021·1 replyTdotI dont care if you believe me
This conversation been going on for over a week
Y’all done yet?
- Jan 19, 2021
SHUT THE F*** UP
- Jan 19, 2021
Larry Ishvalan FoxI’m still on iPhone X and see no reason to upgrade for marginal benefits. Will do it again when they have another radical design change
Agreed
Jan 19, 2021fyaskoI think if u have a 6/7/8 you should upgrade I just upgraded from a 8+
I got the 8 rn so I think it’s time to upgrade soon
But I’ll wait for the new one- Jan 19, 2021Ye24
This conversation been going on for over a week
Y’all done yet?
Im done bro. Forever with that topic itt
- Ye24 🧢Jan 19, 2021·1 replyfyasko
I think if u have a 6/7/8 you should upgrade I just upgraded from a 8+
i still have an iphone 4
- Jan 19, 2021·2 replies
android>>
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replySwope
android>>
Out
- Ye24 🧢Jan 19, 2021
The new iPhone 12 pro with the Dolby Vision camera does look pretty cool tho
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replyTdot
Out
classism wild
- Jan 19, 2021Larry Ishvalan Fox
I’m still on iPhone X and see no reason to upgrade for marginal benefits. Will do it again when they have another radical design change
I jumped from X to 12 pro this year and I can assure you you're doing the right thing. AT&T was doing a $700 trade in deal for the X so I jumped on it but like you said the changes are marginal.
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replyYe24
i still have an iphone 4
U probably got the iPod nano still huh
Jan 19, 2021·1 replySwopeclassism wild
Not even classism at this point lol
- Ye24 🧢Jan 19, 2021·1 replyfyasko
U probably got the iPod nano still huh
Lmao I’m playing i have the 11 pro
- Jan 19, 2021Swope
android>>
Classism
- Jan 19, 2021·2 replies
I used to work special ed and my first year I got a brand new galaxy phone and my students had iphone 4s and were convinced their phones were better than mine lol
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replyFundamentaIs
Not even classism at this point lol
i havent had a problem with it in 14 months
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replyYe24
Lmao I’m playing i have the 11 pro
Yeah I just got the 12 pro I originally had the 8 + and that s*** was huge
- Jan 19, 2021·1 reply
the boxier phone shape definitely feels better in hand though
- Jan 19, 2021·1 replyMCN
the boxier phone shape definitely feels better in hand though
I miss my iPhone 5
Jan 19, 2021·2 repliesFundamentaIsI buy my phones unlocked but I am in no way shaming dudes for falling into that trap. Shaming the dudes that do it and try to act like they are rich itt
all phones are unlocked these days.
unless it's different down in the states
- Jan 19, 2021·4 repliesSwope
i havent had a problem with it in 14 months
Im saying its more so a falsely believing a phone dictates your class status than actual classism lol