i’ll be honest idk if i have a best friend but i have some very close friends

not church specifically

and not white cis men specifically either

it's more the loss of general places to meet people. yea making friends/having a life requires social skills, charisma, etc. but first and foremost u need the opportunity to meet new people.

school has always been a great place for this and still is. but there used to be so much more. instead of school, it could be summer camp or church or work or some store (think what comics stores used to represent) or just ur neighborhood or whatever else.

but slowly these things are either falling out of fashion or being quietly replaced by their online alternatives. religion is on the decline, church is no longer a place to meet people. same w camps n s***. stores are more and more online oriented. neighborhoods become more distant as gentrification and urban planning create car-friendly developments that essentially isolate each house. no longer is there a path everyone walks or a bustling town centre or whatever.

point is, the decline of face to face places to meet people and the growth of the online sphere are massively to blame. im not saying u cant make meaningful connections online. but part of that "close friend" feeling is the in-person aspect.

TLDR technically ur right but the focus specifically on white cis men and church is bizarre

@Killa_K much love and much respect to you bro

white people were never apart of the church to begin with. the more black folks remove themselves from a gentrified gospel, the more the world will heal. The best pastor of our generation is Stephen Darby. Take a listen to him if you haven't and you'll see what I mean about a non white washed gospel of Jesus Christ.

idk exactly what u mean tbh

appreciate the respect tho right back at ya breh

if ur talking the church as in the christian church? the modern understanding is heavily heavily based in european christian tradition. back then "white" wasn't a concept, but by the modern use of the word, white ppl kinda did do it first, by a good margin.

in a sense, the "black church" as a part of US society is a sort of black-washing or reinterpretation of "white church". which for the record 1. i think all these terms are stupid but it's the language i have 2 use to interact w what u said and 2. "white" people doing it first means literally nothing. tbh, who did it first, period, means nothing. dont take what im saying as a defense of "white church" or whatever im just saying it sounds like ur implying "church" is some thing that existed before white people tarnished it, and the black church present in the US is a remnant of the church before white people. which doesn't make much historical sense to me

i hear ya if ur point is that there's more spiritual value in a congregation that is built on an earnest interpretation of the bible's teachings as understood by a people undergoing great hardship. I agree that there's definitely more value in a black church than some modern non-denominational uber-gentrified white church. but there's this whole white people were never involved w the church angle that's losing me

He’s a weirdo leave him be

Reading excerpts such as Isaiah 63, Genesis 49:10-12, Romans 9, Obadiah etc. and learning about the context of these verses especially pertaining to the second coming is crucial.

Growing up, I've always been yearning to learn about the end times and being of age and learning how these gentile teachers have constantly lied about these last few generations we have until Christ cracks the skies is telling.

Taking verses outta context such as Jacob's Trouble in Jeremiah 30 is a process that begins at Jeremiah 30:1... it sets the table. Luke 21:24, that sets the table for the end times.

Now that God is judging the world, as He's currently doing. Sending light plagues of locusts, scorpions, covid etc. the gentile church are completely caught off guard, where as the school of thought I belong to saw what we read in the same book come to fruition.

Pastors like Stephen Darby (RIP) who had a prophetic and accurate message are few n far to come by. It's bigger than one's upbringing, hardships etc. this is about the anointing of God.

I think there's quite a few guys like me that get to about adult age and gravitate from their mans and start seeking that confidant in women

way harder to find a close gal

Even just the 'theological' perspective on the second coming reads and is visually like a Harry Potter book man.

There are verses such as Isaiah 11:11-16 that explains the process.

Genesis 1 explains why the feast days are holy and important but yet we follow gentiles/this world in keeping holidays. Christmas especially

I feel like in general, the concept of proximity, both in distance and friendliness, just leaves after you exit the school phase

i think u missed my point because i don't think anything got cleared up w this answer

i am not a bible scholar. quoting verses will do jack diddly squat for me.

can u break down what ur saying in more plain terms? im genuinely curious, just confused

WOAT take I've ever seen.

lmfao

A lot of judgements concerning America let alone western america have been thrown away and replaced with the modern christian doctrine we have today.

The bible breaks down America to a T but it doesn't get spoken about because it doesn't generate revenue. There are many OT verses that describe America but in Modern Religion, the OT is irrelevant.

I'm not a follower of this channel but someone shared this with me and it's absolutely accurate. Here's the link he provides as well

truthunedited.com/study/characteristics-of-mystery-babylon

In relation to the screenshot above, American men aren't the most progressive or open when it comes to showing emotions to other people (the basis of friendships) without it being deemed "gay" or "feminine" (even tho every human has masc and fem traits lolwut?)

It's one of those common things when people say "the patriarchy hurts everybody" since as men the closest we have to male circles and male group chats we just talk about the most surface level of s*** like sports and girls and music and...that's it.

If you feel depressed, just hold that s*** in.
If you feel angry, fight cause discussing it makes you a p****.

Looks like decades of hammering in a hyper masculine/independent image of the "Alpha male" (which doesn't exist) has backfired and now has left a bunch of American men isolated with no one to confide in cause....nigga leave that s*** in until it explodes and affect the people you love.

Can't relate personally. All me and my niggas talk about is life and handling emotions within this complicated ass world of highs and lows.....and the b****es.

reallllly sloppy a***ysis in that video

there's a lot i could go into but i find the best way to explain this kind of stuff is with the little things.

one of the characteristics of mystery babylon is that is a nation, not a system. ok what is this founded on?

one quote from one english translation of the bible that chose to use the word nation. do you not see how it is extremely likely that the word which was translated into nation could also be translated into state or system or society or any other number of words? in other words, there is no real significance to the word nation being used instead pf the word system.

regardless, something so arbitrary is assigned significant value. the english translation of the bible is bring taken absurdly literally here, to a point that the original meaning of the text becomes distorted. it is made to "say" something it actually never says

and this happens throughout the video. there is no shortage of forced interpretations here. the existence of a mystery babylon is again founded on taking specific word choice EXTREMELY literally, to a point of absurdity.

half this theory is based on comically literal readings of a translated bible, and half is based on elaborate assumptions required to reconcile these literal readings

while viewing america through the lens of mystery babylon can provide unique insight, and does hold some value, it is for the most part an understanding built on very shaky foundations, and should remain as an exercise in perspective. it certainly should not become part of a rigid worldview.

point being, there is a lot of truth to what you say, but there is also a lot of non-truth. you have to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff, my friend.

"anti-capitalism rhetoric"

Best troll on this site yet

When your friendship only revolves around getting high together

nah this take is just tired and wrong tbh

first of all people are struggling to form the connections and relationships you need to "confide in others" in the first place

second of all if a person struggles to be emotionally vulnerable, it is usually because of the trauma of late capitalist society. a broken society warped by the internet age and filled with violence, addiction, and hate

and relationships have become increasingly superficial and commodified. why would a person who experiences these things feel comfortable sharing with others?

ironically you prove people ITT right by thinking that american men can fix their trauma by just "being more progressive"

blaming everything on toxic masculinity is a liberal talking point

toxic masculinity emerges from our material conditions its not something you can get rid of purely by changing your mindset

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Hard for me tell sometimes on bourgeoistothe2 brother

look who's talking

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