Feb 28, 2024Kr0niicYall are so f***ing ridiculous
No I don’t support Israel and I said that many times. Stop twisting words into what yall wanna hear.
So then explain how condemning Hamas is any different than condemning other militant groups taking arms against Israel?
- Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic
Yall are so f***ing ridiculous
No I don’t support Israel and I said that many times. Stop twisting words into what yall wanna hear.
you dont support anything because youre a coward 🤷♀️ learn to grow a backbone
- CKL TML 🌺Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic
Yall are so f***ing ridiculous
No I don’t support Israel and I said that many times. Stop twisting words into what yall wanna hear.
Stand for something or die in the morning
- Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic
Yall are so f***ing ridiculous
No I don’t support Israel and I said that many times. Stop twisting words into what yall wanna hear.
“As I said you can take it as you will.
What you’re saying here is all true and they shouldn’t be on that land anyways. I just don’t think what they did was the right way to go about it. And the response to it is DEFINITELY not right.
Horrible situation all around. I just don’t agree with the stance that it was “right” hamas’s attack is all. Even though I know it was probably the only solution / response they could give given their situation.”These are your words bro. This isn’t “Hamas” attack? Are you f***ing dumb.
READ MOTHERFUCKER
- Feb 28, 2024
BrainWorms4Uinsane, aaron probably handled some really f***ed up instances
They literally tortured Chelsea Manning under Obama. Created all these crazy lies about her. Yet people never learn from the same exact tricks. They said Assange was a rapist. Said Snowden worked for Russia.
lies on lies and people every time eat it up rather than acknowledge America is a piece of s***
- Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic
Took a nap and seeing this now.
Was seeing the account had comments purged and multiple people posting it so I believed it to be true. I have deleted the post
My apologies
thats real
Feb 28, 2024
Nessywe gotta find something other than antisemitism that motivates people to fight for their causes smh
I mean he burned himself alive, wasn't harmful to Jewish people at all
Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic“There are no Israeli civilians” and him saying because of the location of the festival it is deserved imo does infer this imo but you’re allowed to take it as you will. That’s just how I’m reading it.
There is no innocence on either side of this genocide, one side has given all of theirs up to deprive the other side of all of theirs
What do you think the Palestinian children of today will remember growing up? And will you still think they’ll be unjustified in whatever action they take?
- Feb 28, 2024Kr0niic
I can’t condemn Hamas??? Yes I f***ing can. Y’all are f***ing ridiculous
Lol
Feb 28, 2024Kr0niicI don’t endorse and I condemn Hamas but I have empathy for all Palestinians who are forced into this situation. Just because I don’t endorse Hamas’s actions doesn’t mean I don’t support Palestinians and have empathy for them.
If this eventually engulfs into a larger war with multiple countries involved I will still see Israel as the oppressor in this situation as they are on colonized land forcing these people out.
However personally I hold hope for a ceasefire and pray a bigger war doesn’t happen (imo the ceasefire will be temporary and Israel will go back to bombing as soon as the press forgets)
“I support Palestinians but I don’t support the groups fighting for Palestinians”
Feb 28, 2024·2 repliesKr0niicYall are so f***ing ridiculous
No I don’t support Israel and I said that many times. Stop twisting words into what yall wanna hear.
I get where you are coming from when you condemn both Israel and Hamas, I agree with you partly. I'm Lebanese from the south and let me just say most of these people attacking you for having this POV don't really care to make you understand.
I think where you are wrong is downplaying just how evil Israel, specifically Netanyahu's policy's. He does not care for peace, does not want peace, and does not care about either Palestinian lives or Israeli lives. He is fine with Israeli people dying as long as Israel can colonize more land in Palestine.
It is impossible to look at Gaza and say Israel and Hamas are the same level of threat. If Netanyahu wanted he can stop the genocide, protect his borders and actually move towards a peaceful resolution. He does not want this. It's important when you speak about Hamas is to understand peace is not up to them, it is up to Israel to put their foot down and truly initiate it otherwise it will just be a circle of endless violence.
Whenever people take your stance that they want to condemn both sides, it is downplaying just how evil Israel truly is, and equating Hamas with Israel which is just not true. That's why people in this thread are getting mad instead of trying to make you understand.
- Feb 28, 2024·1 replykusa
I get where you are coming from when you condemn both Israel and Hamas, I agree with you partly. I'm Lebanese from the south and let me just say most of these people attacking you for having this POV don't really care to make you understand.
I think where you are wrong is downplaying just how evil Israel, specifically Netanyahu's policy's. He does not care for peace, does not want peace, and does not care about either Palestinian lives or Israeli lives. He is fine with Israeli people dying as long as Israel can colonize more land in Palestine.
It is impossible to look at Gaza and say Israel and Hamas are the same level of threat. If Netanyahu wanted he can stop the genocide, protect his borders and actually move towards a peaceful resolution. He does not want this. It's important when you speak about Hamas is to understand peace is not up to them, it is up to Israel to put their foot down and truly initiate it otherwise it will just be a circle of endless violence.
Whenever people take your stance that they want to condemn both sides, it is downplaying just how evil Israel truly is, and equating Hamas with Israel which is just not true. That's why people in this thread are getting mad instead of trying to make you understand.
I don’t see why Netanyahu is somehow special
He is properly representative of the Israeli people. They’re just mad at home because he isn’t killing Palestinians quickly or efficiently enough
Netanyahu doesn’t want peace the same way the Zionists don’t want peace
The polls literally say it
- Feb 28, 2024·1 replyeye contact
I don’t see why Netanyahu is somehow special
He is properly representative of the Israeli people. They’re just mad at home because he isn’t killing Palestinians quickly or efficiently enough
Netanyahu doesn’t want peace the same way the Zionists don’t want peace
The polls literally say it
Idk how you come to the conclusion that all Israelis support Netanyahu ? It just isn’t true.
If you believe that all Israelis are Zionists then that’s you, but there has to be a distinction because there can be a world where Israel stops following Zionist ideology.
- Feb 28, 2024·1 reply
Yes I agree with you, the only reason I brought this up is that saying you support Hamas's actions is MUCH different then understanding why it happened I think we can agree to that.
And I know there's many groups fighting against Israel, my goal at the post was to push away from always trying to mention Hamas when talking about Israel and Palestine, and instead focus on how Netanyahu and his policies specifically do not care about peace whatsoever, and directly push Hamas to do what they do.
Feb 28, 2024·editedkusaYes I agree with you, the only reason I brought this up is that saying you support Hamas's actions is MUCH different then understanding why it happened I think we can agree to that.
And I know there's many groups fighting against Israel, my goal at the post was to push away from always trying to mention Hamas when talking about Israel and Palestine, and instead focus on how Netanyahu and his policies specifically do not care about peace whatsoever, and directly push Hamas to do what they do.
yeah I deleted since you said u we’re from Lebanon.
on netanyahu I don’t believe he was any different from previous Israeli leaders, besides being more openly antagonistic in rhetoric the primary goal has always been displacement or removal in one form or another
I don’t think the pre-Oct 7 situation was ever meant to last or improve from there. Israel has grown complacent over the years especially since the attacks in 2018 and Trump moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
I don’t think ultimately it would have changed if anyone else was in power
- Feb 28, 2024·edited·2 replieskusa
Idk how you come to the conclusion that all Israelis support Netanyahu ? It just isn’t true.
If you believe that all Israelis are Zionists then that’s you, but there has to be a distinction because there can be a world where Israel stops following Zionist ideology.
Israel was specifically founded as a colonial Jewish state. Zionism stresses that the land Israel lays on is rightfully Jewish and is to be controlled by Jewish people
This ideology of Israel is its entire foundation, and it is squarely opposed to the reality of Palestine being a land inhabited by hundreds of identities for thousands of years
You cannot have an “israel” WITHOUT a “Zionism,” and you cannot have an Israel WITH a multiethnic secular democracy
It’s not “just me,”who believe this. The architects of Zionism, the architects of Israel, the Palestinian opposition, and politicians and social commentators across time will all agree on the idea that all Israelis are Zionist settlers. The only people who don’t are deluded nonpartisan idealists
Also, people may not support Netanyahu, but that’s only because he is clumsily mishandling the war. They absolutely support the policy of displacement and genocide, but not Netanyahu’s handling of it
Feb 28, 2024Kr0niicI can’t condemn Hamas??? Yes I f***ing can. Y’all are f***ing ridiculous
stick to the gaming sxn man
Feb 28, 2024·1 replyeye contactIsrael was specifically founded as a colonial Jewish state. Zionism stresses that the land Israel lays on is rightfully Jewish and is to be controlled by Jewish people
This ideology of Israel is its entire foundation, and it is squarely opposed to the reality of Palestine being a land inhabited by hundreds of identities for thousands of years
You cannot have an “israel” WITHOUT a “Zionism,” and you cannot have an Israel WITH a multiethnic secular democracy
It’s not “just me,”who believe this. The architects of Zionism, the architects of Israel, the Palestinian opposition, and politicians and social commentators across time will all agree on the idea that all Israelis are Zionist settlers. The only people who don’t are deluded nonpartisan idealists
Also, people may not support Netanyahu, but that’s only because he is clumsily mishandling the war. They absolutely support the policy of displacement and genocide, but not Netanyahu’s handling of it
well said. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've tried to explain this to zionists / zionist sympathizers just for it to fall on deaf ears. they are morons.
- Feb 28, 2024mvp
well said. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've tried to explain this to zionists / zionist sympathizers just for it to fall on deaf ears. they are morons.
Try and convince a Nazi that being white isn’t a virtue
Then do the same thing with a Zionist and Judaism
It’s just a dogma that all supremacists carry with them, from the oppressed to the oppressor
- Feb 28, 2024·2 replieseye contact
Israel was specifically founded as a colonial Jewish state. Zionism stresses that the land Israel lays on is rightfully Jewish and is to be controlled by Jewish people
This ideology of Israel is its entire foundation, and it is squarely opposed to the reality of Palestine being a land inhabited by hundreds of identities for thousands of years
You cannot have an “israel” WITHOUT a “Zionism,” and you cannot have an Israel WITH a multiethnic secular democracy
It’s not “just me,”who believe this. The architects of Zionism, the architects of Israel, the Palestinian opposition, and politicians and social commentators across time will all agree on the idea that all Israelis are Zionist settlers. The only people who don’t are deluded nonpartisan idealists
Also, people may not support Netanyahu, but that’s only because he is clumsily mishandling the war. They absolutely support the policy of displacement and genocide, but not Netanyahu’s handling of it
I know the history of Zionism and the roots of Israel.
I think we just disagree fundamentally. I think there can be an Israel where Zionism does not exist. There are so many countries that have been built on war, and colonization, and yet those policies that they lived on back then do not exist now.
And no you are just wrong there are MANY Israelis against Netanyahu BECAUSE he is attacking Gaza and committing a Genocide.
- Feb 28, 2024kusa
I know the history of Zionism and the roots of Israel.
I think we just disagree fundamentally. I think there can be an Israel where Zionism does not exist. There are so many countries that have been built on war, and colonization, and yet those policies that they lived on back then do not exist now.
And no you are just wrong there are MANY Israelis against Netanyahu BECAUSE he is attacking Gaza and committing a Genocide.
Something like 90% of the Jewish population supported the war in November bro. Basically the entire Jewish population supported the war. 10% dissent is not enough for me to dismiss the claim that the Israeli population is overwhelmingly pro-war
time.com/6333781/israel-hamas-poll-palestine
And your other point simply doesn’t make sense. If there was no Zionism then there wouldn’t be a nation named after a mythical religious kingdom to cater to its fanatic citizens. It would be called Palestine. The reason Israel is fighting this war is for Zionism; it wouldn’t exist without it
- Feb 28, 2024kusa
I know the history of Zionism and the roots of Israel.
I think we just disagree fundamentally. I think there can be an Israel where Zionism does not exist. There are so many countries that have been built on war, and colonization, and yet those policies that they lived on back then do not exist now.
And no you are just wrong there are MANY Israelis against Netanyahu BECAUSE he is attacking Gaza and committing a Genocide.
their doesnt need to be an israeli state, just like their didnt need to be any of the various African white supremacist settler states that came and went. israel is no different and when its gone people will think of it the same way we think of Rhodesia, British Kenya, or the Confederate States of America. 🤷♀️