Andre Jaquet

1y

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lowkey wanted to say this yesterday just so yall know about any nutjob that claims PFLP because i think ive seen 3 users that do this. i do like hamas and some other resistance groups but..

this person defines themselves as being a member or aligning with PFLP aka a communist resistance group, that while it has some good leaders has been responsible for the synagogue massacre, pioneering plain highjacking not just for israeli targets including the one that instigated black september, and explicitly also wants to "liberate" jordan and morocco. they also killed 28 civillians in collaboration with the japanese red army. they historically have been allied with: north korea, the soviet union, islamic brotherhood groups from iran and iran rewarded them for how pro Assad they were. they have never once even considered a peace deal. they never had any realistic plans, they actively work to stop any negotiations, and they lost mad ground after the fall of the soviet union simply serving as leftists and tankie's fav section of the PLO to d***suck

these people usually on the internet r literally impossible to reason with or have a good convo with for the most part, they will simply attack anyone they perceive as even slightly not aligning perfectly with their views whether its about the topic or not. most of us support the resistance to the degree that its good when they target the military, for the bad parts we understand its inevitable and you cannot blame people in palestine for protecting themselves, and without it who knows what would happen, and it is not proporitonal at all to what israel has put them through. but most dont take on claiming to worship everything these groups say im not gonna put I LOVE HAMAS in my profile because yes they do bad s*** aswell. just be aware your engaging with radicals who are dead set on one single violent vision and doesnt even see the organization whos bidding they do as allies, because they arent unhinged commies lol. even if the PLFP ever got enough influence to gain power in the case of a one state solution they would instantly destroy the nation by their open hostility to any stable surrounding arab states

if yall dont know about black september the PFLP and other leftist sections of PLO called for overthrowing the monarchy of jordan because muh revolution, which led to them hijacking three civillain flights, forced their landing, blew up the planes, and took hostages in front of the news!! They kept operating out of REFUGEE CAMPS to use civillians. this situation led to 25k palestinian lives being lost, every resistance movement being weakened and damn near kicked out of jordan, and really hurt the rest of the palestinian population whos only place to escape to was Jordan. still to this day being a stain on both country's histories. keep in mind, like 60% of the jordanian population is palestinian

PFLP entire history has 0 accounting of what is practical or best for the civillians, their whole entire existence is to serve completing their ideology while being as performative as possible. some great leaders and ideas from it though, but just know anyone claiming them as their tribe probably wont talk with any good faith to you.

snowboyrari

1y

this is crazy zionist propaganda, as if the japanese red army and the soviet airborne divisions which lent aid to the PLO aren't heroes to palestinians.

please stop pushing this narrative of palestinian commandos as terrorists. you just come off as an obnoxious loser acting out for white people.

Andre Jaquet

1y

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it is good they lent aid, that doesnt change the facts of what the PFLP's actual impact has been and that they are a bunch of irrelevant losers who basically f***ed up our entire history with jordan 3 years after they supported us in the war who serve no purpose but being foot soldiers for hamas nowadays its such an odd group to specifically align yourself with. I do like hamas with their flaws and other resistance groups the PFLP though is literally just known as the guys who caused one of the most horrific stains on our legacy for the purpose of spreading a revolution lol

snowboyrari

1y

ban plz for pushing zionist propaganda

Andre Jaquet

1y

this is literally all verifiable fact
do you not know what black september was and its significance? that s*** hurt us so much just because a group of commies got ambitious with forcing their ideas on our ALLIES

snowboyrari

1y

attempting to overthrow the neo-colonial zionist aligned monarchy of jordan was in fact the correct thing to do and the entire PLO was committed to it. again, please do not push zionist bullshit in this thread. you are being a scumbag for a white audience.

snowboyrari

1y

"hamas does bad s*** as well"

get a painful kidney stone plz

Andre Jaquet

1y

sometimes they do
that doesnt stop the fact they are necessary, and its not fair to condemn them for it that much considering their conditions they arent perfect but atleast they are more productive than the PFLP and also have done incredible good for the cause and continue to do so. the problem is when people ask "do u condone hamas" it comes with an implication about everyone that supports palestine and its people, not that we should endorse everything hamas does

Andre Jaquet

1y

jordan was zionist even though they supported us for the entire time before that incident?? the PFLP explicitly stated the purpose was to cause a revolution for the leftist vision they had, the jordanian government let the PLO operate and was supporting the fedayeen. even when the sentiment was lets overthrow the king he hesitated to even do anything because he was supporting us. it was entirely idiotic and unecessary and f***ed us

PFLP optimisticman

1y

Isn't Hamad anti capitalist as well? But you dont call them far left radicals

Andre Jaquet

1y

idk where you read that no they are not they believe in welfare capitalism

Andre Jaquet

1y

idk where you read that no they are not they believe in welfare capitalism

snowboyrari

1y

notice how this user repeats the same bullshit that you hear from the israelis in the media today: alleging the use of "human shields" in camps, use of the "terrorist" label to describe militants, and an intentional skewing of history to make militant resistance against settler colonialism seem unjustified for "pragmatic" purposes

snowboyrari

1y

notice how this user repeats the same bullshit that you hear from the israelis in the media today: alleging the use of "human shields" in camps, use of the "terrorist" label to describe militants, and an intentional skewing of history to make militant resistance against settler colonialism seem unjustified for "pragmatic" purposes

PFLP optimisticman

1y

Capitalism isn't viable from muslim perspective because it works off of riba

Andre Jaquet

1y

just because they use parts of the truth for sections as an excuse to dismiss the entire country, and every resistance out of there, does not mean every resistance movement has been beneficial, to the resistance and our people. ive explicitly said resistance is good and hamas has done a lot of good and needs to stay existing

snowboyrari

1y

youre a p**** and you are showing out for white racists by lying about history. all because what, I said americans shouldn't vote for some politician? youre a b**** bro. are the non-profit DC liberals at CAIR also "radicals" because they had the same conclusion as the PFLP? youre a b****.

Andre Jaquet

1y

i dont say it cuz you said not to vote for a politician, i say it to help explain why you are an unproductive person to engage with and to be able to ramble about the PFLP s*** cuz i held bakc the whole time on talking about it.

Andre Jaquet

1y

islamic economies also reject socialism they are neither or, muhammad himself was a business owner that advocated and did free multiple markets, in practicality when applied usually islamic economists more represent capitalism in practice than socialism

snowboyrari

1y

you'd throw your own people under the bus for clout on a kanye fansite, youre worse than scum. also notice how nobody agrees with you? its because they all know what a scumbag liar you are.