sup yall. i did a lil research on the origins of the word "alternative" in music. then i thought a little bit about what it really means to be "alternative". i looked at rock, rap, r&b, and fashion and their versions of "alt"

what do you guys think when you hear the word "alternative"?

im not gonna act like i didnt sit here and listen to that entire hoobastank song rn

I'm noooot a perfeeeeeect pooooooooster

I feel like there's way too many different levels to alternative. Radiohead was labeled that too and they've been massive

I like we are getting alternative stuff in the poppier realm but idk.

Didn't watch the video, did it talk about turnstiles and that side of alternative right now too?

I consider it to be: "alternative to classic rock", ie alt-rock; alternative rock. However alternative bands like AiC and Nirvana have evolved into classic rock staples, which can obfuscate the meaning of "alternative".

nah im a dumbass for not mentioning turnstile tho in retrospect lol, mostly when i talked about today's rock i was like, there is no "mainstream" rock anymore, basically any kind of rock that people listen to and actively make, is a derivative of one of the alternative rock forms from the 90s (shoegaze, grunge, indie, whatever). so its just funny it gets called "alternative" now, its much more of a vestigial name bc id argue that is no longer the "alternative" to how rock music sounds

that's how it started! so in the video i looked at the other ways people use the word alternative, especially in r&b, where people like frank, sza and the weeknd were "alternatives" to more classic r&B stuff. but nowadays id argue they arent the alternative anymore—i think most r&b acts seeing success these days are directly from their lineage

Can't stand green day. I apologize. I had to shut the video off. Aural cancer.

been that way

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LMAO you dont have to actually hear any green day in the video. but i feel you

Seems like you're producing wonderful content. Glad to have happened upon this thread.

I consider Smashing Pumpkins to be the quintessential alt-rock band.

I happened across their famous 1993 airport (?) acoustic promotional concert. The songwriting talents of Corgan are immeasurable. Would've been interesting to hear aged Cobain and Corgan collaborate.

appreciate u! yea i grew up listening to smashing pumpkins but i need to revisit as an adult honestly

Classic > Alternative > Experimental

u mean in terms of what u prefer? or in terms of how culture develops

In terms of how each genre has these 3 categories

yea that makes sense. pretty effective way to categorize music

at least one a week all year i might bump it up to two every 10 days or something

There is no mainstream, the algorithm era has created everyone’s own personal niche corners

Everything that seems like the hipster weird alt thing eventually becomes ran into the ground

It’s where we at now where everyone is “unique” or different lol. I “blame” Ye and Pharrell.

People go towards the same typical things to be unique/different lol