ive been thinking it could also like how kim punished herself to working on sprinklers in florida to stop from hurting people
if jimmy lied and took the 7 he'd get out quick and fall into the same scam cycle, keep hurting people and having new regrets.
86 is his way of preventing that? like he quarantines himself from the world? prison guarantees he'll die an honest man? idk
Yeah that was the only way he could've stopped himself, think Bob mentioned the same
You just reminded me of that scene in GoodFellas, "sometimes made guys would just go to prison to get a break from their wives" or whatever lmao, and they're all just hanging out in there cooking and s***
you saw how he turned that kitchen to a cinnabon, exactly like the Goodfellas scene
yall wanting to blame a woman for mans decision is sus as f*** I get that its the same fandom that b****ed about 'bitch wife' a decade ago but god damn
ive been thinking it could also like how kim punished herself to working on sprinklers in florida to stop from hurting people
if jimmy lied and took the 7 he'd get out quick and fall into the same scam cycle, keep hurting people and having new regrets.
86 is his way of preventing that? like he quarantines himself from the world? prison guarantees he'll die an honest man? idk
It doesn’t make perfect sense like dude said
It’s really a blah ending, like I said I understand but damn it really does absolve Kim’s part in all of this and she was the one spearheading the scheme on Howard
Of course it isn’t her fault but where is her punishment? She’s back in the law somehow
The haze has dissipated for me, it’s over and I genuinely don’t like the ending no matter how beautiful the shots were
I loved the addition of Marie but cmon man they were eating that s*** up like they had the actual Heisenberg in the courtroom.. Saul wasn’t even around when Hank died smh, most of this falls on the Neo-Nazi’s not Jimmy/Saul
Maybe I need to rewatch it but it doesn’t make sense to me and I can’t see how it does for everyone else either.. just a small blip in an otherwise perfect show.
Saul in 3 months: "hey Bubba have you ever wondered if you had a time machine what you d go back in time and change? I'd f***ing go back to my court case and not surrender my 7 year deal for life in prison with youuuuu!"
It doesn’t make perfect sense like dude said
It’s really a blah ending, like I said I understand but damn it really does absolve Kim’s part in all of this and she was the one spearheading the scheme on Howard
Of course it isn’t her fault but where is her punishment? She’s back in the law somehow
The haze has dissipated for me, it’s over and I genuinely don’t like the ending no matter how beautiful the shots were
I loved the addition of Marie but cmon man they were eating that s*** up like they had the actual Heisenberg in the courtroom.. Saul wasn’t even around when Hank died smh, most of this falls on the Neo-Nazi’s not Jimmy/Saul
Maybe I need to rewatch it but it doesn’t make sense to me and I can’t see how it does for everyone else either.. just a small blip in an otherwise perfect show.
doesnt absolve kim as someone posted itt earlier
peter gould to rolling stone:
jimmy's confession doesn't go against her affidavit, the 'i fed then a bunch of bullshit' line was him lying about having new information to lure kim into the trial
having kim in the courtroom guarantees he will go through with confessing and picking 86 years over 7, because he can't bring himself to lie in front of her again
I find the whole debate of realism here kinda weird tbh... have we all been watching the same world for the past 14 years?
Breaking Bad is a show that has a dude let some junkie girl die and create some goofy butterfly effect s*** where her dad goes to work - he just happens to be an air traffic controller - and then f***s up so bad a whole plane of people die.
Like, it's always been a heightened world, with tonnes of weird or goofy stuff for the sake of diving into its characters or exploring the themes at hand.
If you're someone that's worried about Jimmy giving up 7 years in prison because it's "unrealistic" but you're cool with the ridiculous s*** that was Walt basically causing a commercial airliner to go down, I dunno what to tell ya.
Man this is a cheap cop out tbh
Man this is a cheap cop out tbh
Is it? We all bought Gus building up the perfect corporate d*** network to take revenge for his loved one, but this is where we say a line is crossed?
Most of these characters do insane s*** cause it makes a better story.
Is it? We all bought Gus building up the perfect corporate d*** network to take revenge for his loved one, but this is where we say a line is crossed?
Most of these characters do insane s*** cause it makes a better story.
Look man, I’ve been one of the most supportive posters itt for some of the outlandish choices they’ve made for this show
I can easily suspend my belief about a lot of s*** but it’s okay to admit when something just doesn’t sit right
At least it is for me, it doesn’t diminish the show for me.. the landing was just a bit shaky, is all. It doesn’t take away anything that happened before it and it definitely doesn’t ruin the show. Just not digging the ending. Simple as that.
You saying he’s as good as Denzel?
This performance is up there with the best. Idk how much i would connect to the show without him
This performance is up there with the best. Idk how much i would connect to the show without him
That’s definitely fair. He better snag this Emmy. I’ve also said that Gandolfini has the greatest recorded performance ever.
Man this is a cheap cop out tbh
I mean I respect your point of view on this for sure, you've always been a real one in here, I'm just saying for me this seems to mostly line up with the kind of stuff the BB universe has often done.
Wild characters that often go down paths that contain bizarre decisions or otherwise odd outcomes. This feels on point for me, the kind of writing and messaging that I'd expect from these guys, unlike El Camino's generic "he gets away and drives into the distance as the music rises" type of ending.
This man had to take it back
There’s this one commentator I absolutely despise.. his name is TeflonTv
He’s insufferable, had the worst takes period and never walked back when he was wrong
A lot of garbage takes on YT, made me wanna start my own channel smh
I didn’t think I’d have an issue with this ending but I really do
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, not even Saul in this state of mind would EVER take 86 years
He didn’t even deserve 86 years for all of the s*** he did.. maybe 15-20 but for him to be the mastermind behind everything is really hard to grapple with
Sure he put the cards in play but he couldn’t have predicted Walt’s actions and it kind of takes away everything he did and puts it on Jimmy.. I don’t like that at all.. this isn’t how it works in the real world
I understand he doesn’t have any kids or family but damn bruh take the 7, clear your consciousness in prison, get healthy and work out, build your relationship with Kim if she still loves you after understanding why taking 86 years would have been absolutely ridiculous, help get innocent people free and then come back to society and do right.
He basically gave up on himself and I just can’t get behind it, and yes I understand why he did what he did I’m just saying it’s not realistic in anyway at all.. not even for someone who has an epiphany all of a sudden. But it made their scene at the jail in the shadows dope so yay I guess?
Yeah that's my thing i hate when in movies/shows they override logic/reason/what a character would actually do in favor of pushing a ham fisted message and that's exactly what this ending did
I find the whole debate of realism here kinda weird tbh... have we all been watching the same world for the past 14 years?
Breaking Bad is a show that has a dude let some junkie girl die and create some goofy butterfly effect s*** where her dad goes to work - he just happens to be an air traffic controller - and then f***s up so bad a whole plane of people die.
Like, it's always been a heightened world, with tonnes of weird or goofy stuff for the sake of diving into its characters or exploring the themes at hand.
If you're someone that's worried about Jimmy giving up 7 years in prison because it's "unrealistic" but you're cool with the ridiculous s*** that was Walt basically causing a commercial airliner to go down, I dunno what to tell ya.
Unrealistic behavior is far different from unrealistic scenarios.
Unrealistic behavior is far different from unrealistic scenarios.
"Unrealistic behaviour" assumes that you're able to empathise with every type of person out there, that's like the kind of people who complain during horror movies with stuff like "oh I wouldn't have run in there, this person's an idiot, this movie sucks."
Just because you wouldn't do something personally, or can't work out why someone would do something, doesn't mean that someone wouldn't actually do that thing.
yall wanting to blame a woman for mans decision is sus as f*** I get that its the same fandom that b****ed about 'bitch wife' a decade ago but god damn
Who’s blaming Kim tho??
She was a part of his reasoning for doing what he did, sure.. but what does her being a woman have to do with anything?
When people say this I think they think they’re trying to be noble and s*** but it diminishes a character/person to just their gender and it does the opposite of what you were intending to do.
Who gives a f*** if Kim is a woman, she’s a character in the show lol
Unrealistic behavior is far different from unrealistic scenarios.
Not even close to unrealistic behavior.
There’s people out here who actually prefer to stay in prison for life because they do not trust themselves in the outside world.
There’s people who end their life permanently over certain setbacks that we would see as being able to get over.
Jimmy wanting to atone for his wrong doings and being inspired to do it by Kim is not even close to unrealistic and out of character for him
It doesn’t make perfect sense like dude said
It’s really a blah ending, like I said I understand but damn it really does absolve Kim’s part in all of this and she was the one spearheading the scheme on Howard
Of course it isn’t her fault but where is her punishment? She’s back in the law somehow
The haze has dissipated for me, it’s over and I genuinely don’t like the ending no matter how beautiful the shots were
I loved the addition of Marie but cmon man they were eating that s*** up like they had the actual Heisenberg in the courtroom.. Saul wasn’t even around when Hank died smh, most of this falls on the Neo-Nazi’s not Jimmy/Saul
Maybe I need to rewatch it but it doesn’t make sense to me and I can’t see how it does for everyone else either.. just a small blip in an otherwise perfect show.
His confession doesn't affect Kim's incoming civil case, I figured as much but writers even confirmed, "you don't save me I save me" and all
Not even close to unrealistic behavior.
There’s people out here who actually prefer to stay in prison for life because they do not trust themselves in the outside world.
There’s people who end their life permanently over certain setbacks that we would see as being able to get over.
Jimmy wanting to atone for his wrong doings and being inspired to do it by Kim is not even close to unrealistic and out of character for him
But bro, it is.. lol
He’s never done something like this.. his true self was when he was talking to the DA with Marie in the room.. he told the truth too, it’s not like he was laying he just didn’t tell the entire truth, huge difference
I don’t think this decision felt like something he would always do, he should have been in self preservation mode more so than ever before.. but now all of a sudden he feels the need to atone?
I just don’t see it man.. I’m not happy I feel this way because of how amazing it is and how I have hardly had any quips with what the writers have done but this doesn’t feel like something his character would always do