Facts
My man has been thru some s***, probably had it the worst from all the characters, imagine doing all that just to be killed in the final season, i wont accept that

If Nacho and or Kim dies ima riot

I see it being the opposite since they did this with Jesse

do you guys know of Jonathan Banks in beverly hills cop or nah? that movie is the s***. classic eddie murphy. and jonathan banks is a real d*** in it

I feel like Mike wouldn't let Gus kill off Nacho or his dad, earlier in the season Mike expressed how he thought Nachos both been through enough and has done enough for them and should be let go. We saw how Mike was really considering quitting after the Ziegler thing, so I feel like if he was to stay loyal to Gus then he would get what he feels is right this time around

Maybe Nachos the one who gets the hoovermax

So, just some random dangling strings to try and clarify/make sense of, in no particular order:

• Lalo is now presumed dead by Gus. In turn, Nacho, Saul, and you would expect Bolsa, Eladio etc will be told the same fabrication at some point.

• Some cover story will have to be made by Gus in the meantime as to who did the hit on Lalo.

• Eladio and Nacho have hit it off, and Eladio is onboard with the plan for him to run things north of the border while Lalo stays back. Unknown if Eladio knows Nacho had remained back and was around during the hit. If so, he'll have to explain how he survived.

• Lalo's body will not be found by anyone looking. (Hint: because he's not dead)

• Lalo knows (instinctively) its Gus who's orchestrated the hit.

• Lalo in turn should know/assume Saul was lying and was ambushed and Gus saved him.

• Lalo knows Nacho was the inside man and knows in turn he's implicated somehow with Gus. He does not know Nacho caused Tio's condition.

• Lalo does not know of Bolsa's involvement in organising the ambush. Bolsa does not know that Gus stopped the ambush, nor that Gus ordered the hit.

• Gus has paused progress on his superlab while Lalo has been north of the border. Presumably now with Lalo assumed dead he will immediately resume.

• Krazy 8 is a DEA informant, but is actually being fed the info direct from Lalo/Nacho.

• Krazy 8 will at some point branch off from the Salamanca operation and go solo as a distributor and manufacturer. Whether this is planned by Lalo/Nacho/Tio/Tuco etc is unknown

• Coke is still predominantly the majority of the cartel's supply and profit. Meth is presumably controlled by the biker gang types mentioned by Nacho. This will shift.

• Hank and Gomie are not yet fully integrated/aware of the extent of the cartel's involvement north of the border in the d*** business.

• Saul will at some point move into his office we know from BrBa. He will be a full on shady lawyer, will rehire Francesca, Huell full time, Kuby.

• We are currently in 2004, but the BrBa timeline will kick in from about 08 onwards. Our first indicator should be something like Krazy 8 getting killed.

• Tuco is in prison for another 11 months or so and then will be out. Presumably will remain south of the border until Krazy 8's killed.

• Saul will be out in the desert with Walt and Jesse and mention Nacho and Lalo in around 2009. Post Tuco's death.

• Gene plotline should be resolved, be it in cold opens, or in a full on dedicated episode/season finale etc.

That is a ton of ground to cover in 13 episodes. Assuming the series takes us up to the point of Saul in the desert, Which I would assume it has to do. Very intrigued how they plan to plot it out and how the hell this whole Lalo/Gus/Nacho situation doesnt just resolve itself almost instantly timeline-wise at least.

Dont forget the Gene plotline will have to be resolved

Yep lemme add that

I'm truly baffled. How does Lalo not win the Game of Thrones?

lalo’s rage will make him more savage but more vulnerable
He’ll have the element of surprise, i really wanna know what his first move would be
Target Saul and Kim first?
Nacho?
Will he use connections from Tuco for U.S chess moves?

I don’t know even know how he would start a retaliation

Nacho's pretty useless to Gus now that Lalo ain't dead and he knows Nacho is a double agent. I'd make Nacho a slave like Jesse and threaten his father to keep him in line like Gus Then I'd use him against Gus since Gus is my ultimate goal

Gus has no idea Lalo is not dead. Nacho is supremely useful to him. Theoretically Nacho is who will be running business for the Salamanca's north of the border

You think Gus won't find out?

He can’t do that since he wants Gus to believe he’s dead.

Bolsa and Eladio got to believe he’s dead as well to make that happen

Nacho dipped

Of course. But the question is when. Should be pretty easy for Lalo to cover his tracks. Gus hired these guys through a middleman and not like Gus is heading south of the border to check out everything personally

Exactly my line of thinking. Lalo has a huge upper hand you would think. But where the hell does he even start.

He can’t be in America. I mean he can but it would be a huge risk.

All i can think for him to do is to utilize his connections that Tuco could give him in the meantime.

I do not envy the writing staff having to tackle this next season.

Agreed he'll have to lay low in Mexico I would imagine.

Presumably he'll continue to play dead in the eyes of Eladio and the rest too for now? Probably doesnt know who he can trust and who's backing Gus.

Tuco would seem like a risk but he is family and no doubt he values that above all.

I don’t see any other card as the start they could play with and you know Tuco would back his family up with whatever they need.

would be a possibility to see that skinny pete cameo as well lol

Bolsa already tried keeping lalo in prison.
So Lalo (rightfully so) is suspicious of all parties involved in the cartel business.

Lalo on his Walter White SZN 5 Side B s***

Yeah Lalo should be full on paranoid rn.

With Tuco he's still gotta wait the 11 months for him to get out of prison.

Maybe long term he uses Krazy 8 secretly and gets him to splinter off from Nacho and in turn has an informant to harm Gus with.

You’re right he’s still got a Ocho Loco Card on deck to play, you’re onto something here.

It’s all about being able to get in contact at that point though.

Since he’s in prison, Tuco could make that happen easy.

But like this timeline is really gonna take place over the next 5 years? Thats the bit that makes my head spin. Unless they retcon a bit or play around with the dates I just dont get how Lalo and Nacho can still be active in 09 when Saul's taken out to the desert.

They won’t be active in 09. I’m sure they will all be (Kim, Lalo, Nacho) either dead or have escaped by the start of BB Era

I’m thinking Season 3 will wrap up within 2 years time frame.

For this story they won’t need too many years.

Lalo (for all we know) will be in hiding for at least a good year planning his revenge

This f***ing woman... imagine coming home to that every evening