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  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
    Theory

    If I made a song that got 10 million plays and I made less money off of it than I make working a 9 to 5 I’d kill myself no cap

    its ridiculous

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    safe

    @ragedsycokiller did you get notified ?

    Yeah I did preciate it. Still want to eventually do the cover art someday lol

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    Wow great thread

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
    GoodbyeCarl

    Yeah I did preciate it. Still want to eventually do the cover art someday lol

    yea for sure
    and sweet just wanted to check the @s were working

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    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
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    if you wanna be notified when I post like this
    quote this

    posts about once a week

  • Aug 8, 2020
    Goku

    Wow great thread

  • Aug 8, 2020
    safe

    if you wanna be notified when I post like this
    quote this

    posts about once a week

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    Goddamn that progressive payment scheme.

    I wanna get into a in depth convo after i get back from this bbq man. Very interesting.

    Do you have any book recs for us to learn more about the industry? Ive read only one a while back but didnt retain much

  • Aug 8, 2020
    safe

    if you wanna be notified when I post like this
    quote this

    posts about once a week

  • Aug 8, 2020
    safe

    if you wanna be notified when I post like this
    quote this

    posts about once a week

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
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    Worldpremiere_

    Goddamn that progressive payment scheme.

    I wanna get into a in depth convo after i get back from this bbq man. Very interesting.

    Do you have any book recs for us to learn more about the industry? Ive read only one a while back but didnt retain much

    labels would HATE it but it makes a lot of sense to me

    obviously it would have to be adjusted to work across the real numbers of streams and s*** but look at this

    artists make more from my proposed scheme than the current payout right up until their song has 180m streams

  • Aug 8, 2020

    In.

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Aug 8, 2020

    this is more of a discussion one! I wanna hear what ideas you guys have/whether you think an artist friendly industry will every happen and how etc

  • Aug 8, 2020

    Great thread OP definitely an eye opener for me

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    thank you for this. a thread on how label scouting works in 2020 would also be nice or just how artists generally get attention

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    Yeah, great idea - Spotify/AM would absolutely LOVE to give $5K for 50K streams, instead of just $160
    Could've been an interesting topic if you came up with a realistic idea ..

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    I don't think I can contribute much to this conversation because I am stupid, but good job safe.

    btw off topic but Emotion side b is in that picture so I like the thread even more. Go listen to Roses everyone!!

    edit: and that Ingrid Michaelson album has 1 song i really like on it

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    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
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    Stay Healthy

    thank you for this. a thread on how label scouting works in 2020 would also be nice or just how artists generally get attention

    might make a thread detailing how I'd blow up if I was an artist next

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Aug 8, 2020
    Zack From The Six

    Yeah, great idea - Spotify/AM would absolutely LOVE to give $5K for 50K streams, instead of just $160
    Could've been an interesting topic if you came up with a realistic idea ..

    do you understand how tax brackets work?
    the payout from Spotify is the same overall because most streams on Spotify come from artists who already have over 20m streams on their song
    Spotify now pays 20% less to them which allows them to pay more for artists with less streams

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    safe

    might make a thread detailing how I'd blow up if I was an artist next

    yeah and like what type of audience is sustainable and metrics to prove that. why can some artists stay afloat with fewer releases with larger time gaps between them

  • will read
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  • PIMP 💿
    Aug 8, 2020
    safe

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  • Aug 8, 2020
    safe

    might make a thread detailing how I'd blow up if I was an artist next

    oh I'd love this one

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    safe
    Discussion

    I want to know what you guys think

    What are the biggest issues with the industry right now in your opinions?
    What changes do you agree with here and what don’t you agree with?
    What changes do you think could help?
    Do you think things are getting better or worse for small artists?

    I think its great that the music side of the industry is being democratized but I feel like the industry side is very much gatekept and behind closed doors.

    like you said about the pop charts but almost the entirety of it is label backed and dominated by the big 3 which doesnt really represent the diversity of artists that are gaining popularity rn.

    It seems like you have to be Chance or Frank in the sense that you find unmitigated success before going the independent route and that small artists hoping to find success are being forced to have to go through labels despite artists being able to create industry standard quality music by themselves.

    I don't know all that much about labels but wdyt @safe

    what do you think small artists can do to find success independently

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    Stay Healthy

    yeah and like what type of audience is sustainable and metrics to prove that. why can some artists stay afloat with fewer releases with larger time gaps between them

    this is interesting. We all know those artists have a more dedicated fanbase, but why and how do you get there? Like some artists can start taking 3 or 4 years breaks just from the first album without losing or even gaining fans. While others try and fail, or have to release almost every year.

    I know in some cases, music is all the artist has. And others, they do things like movies, entrepreneurship, or simply promote the album for a long time. Some can afford to get out of our faces for some times while others have to release about every year to stay afloat, whether they like it or not.

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