What’s wrong with JP? Lol, I mean I appreciate he’s not afraid to speak his mind and give a wake up call to everyone
if you can’t figure it out on your own, it’s not worth explaining since you probably agree with his f***ed up views
his early psychology stuff is unironically good and helpful but the moment he touches anything to do with philosophy or politics he goes off the f***ing deep end
This is really helpful to know, thank you
I personally haven't read his self help stuff but a lot of the criticisms I've heard about have mentioned that the evangelical conservatism stuff is kinda the underlying message, but I guess that could be easy to miss if you aren't religious or didn't grow up in a religious household.
Though none of the things I mentioned aren't really new to JP's overall ideology. They've been present ever since he and the rest of the "intellectual dark web" came to prominence, so I think in some aspects all of that stuff serves as the base for his writing and preps his readers to be open to his more extreme views.
I don't really think there's any danger in reading his self help stuff and taking away some things that help you but the dangerous part comes when his readers do take that next step and start engaging with his stuff that is actually harmful to people.
Thank you for breaking this down in such detail
I don't think my friend is gonna go beyond that book so I think he should be good
Hes funny once u stop taking him srs. Hes playing a character
Yeah he’s thoroughly entertaining lmfao. Watching him debate with all the twitch dweebs is funny af
F*** Andrew tate
But when we gonna start calling Twitch personalities grifters
Idk if that's the right word and I know I'm not saying anything original here
But like that Hasan dude being a millionaire and still taking donations off children just don't sit right with me personally. I'm not saying if u left wing u can't make money but how u gonna call Tate a scammer for selling a course while u a millionaire selling emoji access and s*** to children
It's 2022 but whole concept still so strange to me
F*** Andrew tate
But when we gonna start calling Twitch personalities grifters
Idk if that's the right word and I know I'm not saying anything original here
But like that Hasan dude being a millionaire and still taking donations off children just don't sit right with me personally. I'm not saying if u left wing u can't make money but how u gonna call Tate a scammer for selling a course while u a millionaire selling emoji access and s*** to children
It's 2022 but whole concept still so strange to me
worry bout your own bag💯
F*** Andrew tate
But when we gonna start calling Twitch personalities grifters
Idk if that's the right word and I know I'm not saying anything original here
But like that Hasan dude being a millionaire and still taking donations off children just don't sit right with me personally. I'm not saying if u left wing u can't make money but how u gonna call Tate a scammer for selling a course while u a millionaire selling emoji access and s*** to children
It's 2022 but whole concept still so strange to me
Regardless of whether he's a grifter how is it a scam, nobody is under the impression that they're getting something out of it besides avoiding ads
Hasan even used to say how to bypass ads with VPN or adblock before twitch made him stop
It's definitely not comparable to Andrew Tate's MLM
Regardless of whether he's a grifter how is it a scam, nobody is under the impression that they're getting something out of it besides avoiding ads
Hasan even used to say how to bypass ads with VPN or adblock before twitch made him stop
It's definitely not comparable to Andrew Tate's MLM
It's immoral imo .
Genuine question how is the Tate thing mlm from what I've seen he sell courses and there's just referral codes some people have but there's no need to recruit people. Whole referral / affiliate thing seems like s pretty common marketing strategy these days
Im not defending it just I've read that it's only certain people who even have a referral code so it doesn't seem to fit the MLM criteria because not everyone can even recruit people. Just the whole dumbass buy my course to get rich s*** with an affiliate program
But I might be missing something if u know more
It's immoral imo .
Genuine question how is the Tate thing mlm from what I've seen he sell courses and there's just referral codes some people have but there's no need to recruit people. Whole referral / affiliate thing seems like s pretty common marketing strategy these days
Im not defending it just I've read that it's only certain people who even have a referral code so it doesn't seem to fit the MLM criteria because not everyone can even recruit people. Just the whole dumbass buy my course to get rich s*** with an affiliate program
But I might be missing something if u know more
The scam is that the course has nothing you can't find for free on youtube basically lol
It's not affiliate marketing either bc that doesn't come with a signup fee or tries to lure you in on a promise to get rich quick
The scam is that the course has nothing you can't find for free on youtube basically lol
It's not affiliate marketing either bc that doesn't come with a signup fee or tries to lure you in on a promise to get rich quick
I agree with u but how is it MLM though. Just doesn't seem to fit the definition to me.
I agree with u but how is it MLM though. Just doesn't seem to fit the definition to me.
How is it not MLM? You pay to get in, and then you get paid by getting other people to join, the guy at the top still makes money off every sale. It's pretty much textbook MLM tbh lol
Most people make most of their money that they do make bc of the course on the commission and not because of whatever they learn from it. You're basically saying because there's a product it's not a MLM, every MLM comes with a product.
From his website:
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Every professor is verified by me personally. Each one of them is making anywhere from 10k to 500k a month in their select field.
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Bro this is just a classic get rich quick MLM
It's so obvious lmao
How is it not MLM? You pay to get in, and then you get paid by getting other people to join, the guy at the top still makes money off every sale. It's pretty much textbook MLM tbh lol
There's no product being sold and the courses they sell don't rely on u getting other people to join
MLM the basis of it is u gotta get other people to join to make money. But the average member can't even recruit people from what I understand.
It doesn't mean im saying it not basically s money making scam just it not MLM
NOOO why Marx .... I read his manifesto many times now. In German. It is the utterings of a madman. It makes no sense at all
Damn
Crazy way to admit you suck at reading
I agree with him and dont view them as awful and morally wrong
Don't view what as morally wrong
jus wanna ask, why is it only people on the “right” that get attacked and called “grifters”?
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Don't view what as morally wrong
the person I was replying to called peterson transphobic and talked about evangelical conservatism
but I've never heard him judge a trans person on their choice, he's just stated the fact that everyone is born either as a male or female
as far as evangelical conservatism goes all I've heard JP do is a***yze biblical figures and situations in a psychological way which is his specialty as a psychiatrist on the interactions between humans and their creator....mostly the old testament
all of the above^ I dont find morally wrong. Quite the opposite actually, he's making important distinctions, for example, people who preach about pride rights but called people gay as an insult before the cancel movement are an offense to em and psychologists/psychiatrists that never studied religion which is the biggest source of philosophy and inner pain/freedom are uneducated.
That's just my opinion tho, but, I'll be damned if I let ppl tell me who to listen to or not without investigating