Feb 5, 2023in a sentence whats going on with andrew tate
any updates?
Feb 5, 2023·edited·1 reply
ChillaThanks for the article. Most of it reiterates the points I made in my post, but I did learn something new from your quote about which type of women are more likely to get sexually assaulted. As the quote says, the ‘conventional wisdom’ (which to me felt more natural) is that it’s the women with provocative clothing (or lack of clothing to be frank) that would get sexually assaulted (raped). It seems they are not targeted to the extent that I had thought, so I appreciate you bringing that to my attention. That doesn’t however mean their risk of being targeted goes down to zero and I still believe it is always better to be on the side of caution, whether you’re more likely or less likely to be a target.
So you just completely ignored everything I said and stood by your point which has no actual statistical evidence. Saying that men can't control themselves at the sight of a short skirt is a pretty awful depiction of men with no actual evidence to corroborate it. It paints men as uncontrollable sexual beings. Ask yourself, would you rape a woman who you saw walking naked down the street? If not, then their dress should not be a reason to defend other rapists actions against that woman. What you are saying only justifies the rapist's actions because the way a woman dresses is irrelevant towards the act of rape and this is proven statistically.
Feb 5, 2023
shanehe's implying he has no choice but to read your posts, because the only other thing he could do is ban you to stop
you sound ridiculous
Feb 5, 2023·1 replywhy is it always the ppl posting ultra right wing sources saying "they dont know who that is" or their uninformed on the source validity?
ive seen it in more than one person posting s*** you gotta intentionally seek out
Feb 5, 2023
BabaláwoSo you ain’t say there is 0 evidence against him?
Notice how he didn’t reply to this. 0 evidence
if he hasn’t told you already he’s an American, because that’s a trait to brag about when it comes to fair trials in a court of law 
everybody in here knows what innocent until proven guilty means but it’s crazy to keep trying to reiterate this to try and deflect from the obvious statement that Tate is a horrible piece of s*** who should at the very least be silenced on all platforms (he’s also definitely guilty the evidence is irrefutable).- Feb 5, 2023
But then again. I am a human, and I believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty
- Feb 5, 2023·edited·1 replyRalo
So you just completely ignored everything I said and stood by your point which has no actual statistical evidence. Saying that men can't control themselves at the sight of a short skirt is a pretty awful depiction of men with no actual evidence to corroborate it. It paints men as uncontrollable sexual beings. Ask yourself, would you rape a woman who you saw walking naked down the street? If not, then their dress should not be a reason to defend other rapists actions against that woman. What you are saying only justifies the rapist's actions because the way a woman dresses is irrelevant towards the act of rape and this is proven statistically.
No, I actually learned from the quote you posted and I thanked you for bringing it to my attention because I too had the conventional belief that provocative/revealing clothing made you more likely to be targeted by a rapist, but based on the information you posted, that is not one of the main factors or traits that make you more likely to be a target. Rapists are, as you rightly said and informed me about, mainly looking for other traits that make the victim easier and more convenient to handle, such as a passive, submissive demeanour because they are easier to overpower.
In my previous post I was purposefully being overtly clear about how the rapist is the only one at fault, regardless of what you wear, what you do, where you are. The victim is never at fault for being targeted and there is no dispute about that, so please do not imply that I'm defending the culprit and blaming the victim. Even your article makes this clear:
"Nowhere does victimology imply that people who stand out as easy targets are to blame for becoming victims. Predators bear sole responsibility for the crimes they commit—and should be held accountable and punished accordingly. "
If you believe that simply discussing and trying to pinpoint potential factors that could make you a more likely target (which is the whole purpose of the article you posted) is the same as victim blaming or justifying the rapist's actions then the whole article you posted falls apart because it does exactly that - it points out what factors/traits make you more likely to become a target.
- Feb 5, 2023
Synopsisinnocent until proven guilty doesn't mean we, as the public, cannot look at the overwhelming amount of f***ed up, illegal s*** this guy has said and done, and determine that he's guilty and a truly horrendous individual lmao.
like goddamn y'all are stupid
Dont know why people always think you gotta act according to government principles lmao
Like should a victim wait until the perpetrator was proven guilty to dislike them now?
People on social media always make up these weird statements and sell them as fact. Same with the free speech thing. Like no we arent locking people up I dont have to wait until somebody got put in jail to speak my mind
- Feb 5, 2023
She andrews my tate
- Feb 5, 2023·1 replyChilla
No, I actually learned from the quote you posted and I thanked you for bringing it to my attention because I too had the conventional belief that provocative/revealing clothing made you more likely to be targeted by a rapist, but based on the information you posted, that is not one of the main factors or traits that make you more likely to be a target. Rapists are, as you rightly said and informed me about, mainly looking for other traits that make the victim easier and more convenient to handle, such as a passive, submissive demeanour because they are easier to overpower.
In my previous post I was purposefully being overtly clear about how the rapist is the only one at fault, regardless of what you wear, what you do, where you are. The victim is never at fault for being targeted and there is no dispute about that, so please do not imply that I'm defending the culprit and blaming the victim. Even your article makes this clear:
"Nowhere does victimology imply that people who stand out as easy targets are to blame for becoming victims. Predators bear sole responsibility for the crimes they commit—and should be held accountable and punished accordingly. "
If you believe that simply discussing and trying to pinpoint potential factors that could make you a more likely target (which is the whole purpose of the article you posted) is the same as victim blaming or justifying the rapist's actions then the whole article you posted falls apart because it does exactly that - it points out what factors/traits make you more likely to become a target.
I’m talking specifically about the way a victim dresses influencing the chances of them being raped, which is the idea that Tate was spreading. That’s what this whole discussion is about
- Feb 5, 2023·1 replyRIP PRINCE
ur gonna ban someone because you disagree with what they said in the andrew tate thread ?
supporting tate should be bannable offense
- Feb 5, 2023
SteakNgl most of these aren’t that bad. When I read I can hear him saying it comedically. So I’d need context before I judge.
But the last 3-4 quotes are fuuucked up.
- Feb 5, 2023·1 reply
what context could make sayinhg a woman is a mans property okay
- Feb 5, 2023math fifty
supporting tate should be bannable offense
who is supporting tate
- Feb 5, 2023Ralo
I’m talking specifically about the way a victim dresses influencing the chances of them being raped, which is the idea that Tate was spreading. That’s what this whole discussion is about
Yes, and I've conceded that you were right about that specific statistic so it's all good. I learned something from our exchange.
- Feb 5, 2023·edited·10 repliesmath fifty
what context could make sayinhg a woman is a mans property okay
I think it's the specific choice of using the word "property" that pushes buttons because it has a more materialistic connotation. The use of possessive terms when referring to someone you love however is natural to us all. My girl belongs to me, as in she's my girl, not your girl, and I belong to her, as in I'm her man, not somebody else's man. Me saying that she's my girl doesn't mean she's only here to please me and has no autonomy over her own body and mind. If a man's trying to holla at my girl and I yell "Ayo, get away from my property! Get your own girlfriend!" most people would understand that I'm not equating my girlfriend to a cellphone, a house or a car. I'm just saying she belongs to me and I belong to her. Tate might have a deeper meaning behind it but this is how I see it.
- Feb 5, 2023·1 reply
- Feb 5, 2023·1 replyChilla
I think it's the specific choice of using the word "property" that pushes buttons because it has a more materialistic connotation. The use of possessive terms when referring to someone you love however is natural to us all. My girl belongs to me, as in she's my girl, not your girl, and I belong to her, as in I'm her man, not somebody else's man. Me saying that she's my girl doesn't mean she's only here to please me and has no autonomy over her own body and mind. If a man's trying to holla at my girl and I yell "Ayo, get away from my property! Get your own girlfriend!" most people would understand that I'm not equating my girlfriend to a cellphone, a house or a car. I'm just saying she belongs to me and I belong to her. Tate might have a deeper meaning behind it but this is how I see it.
andrew tate accused of essentially having a camgirl s***dungeon and keeping their passports from them
"nah he just means property as in my girl"
Just get this s*** over with so I can stop seeing this legendary cope every day
- Feb 5, 2023math fifty
- Feb 5, 2023blonded
andrew tate accused of essentially having a camgirl s***dungeon and keeping their passports from them
"nah he just means property as in my girl"
Just get this s*** over with so I can stop seeing this legendary cope every day
Yeye we just discussing dawg it ain't that serious. Whatevs
Feb 5, 2023·1 replyChillaI think it's the specific choice of using the word "property" that pushes buttons because it has a more materialistic connotation. The use of possessive terms when referring to someone you love however is natural to us all. My girl belongs to me, as in she's my girl, not your girl, and I belong to her, as in I'm her man, not somebody else's man. Me saying that she's my girl doesn't mean she's only here to please me and has no autonomy over her own body and mind. If a man's trying to holla at my girl and I yell "Ayo, get away from my property! Get your own girlfriend!" most people would understand that I'm not equating my girlfriend to a cellphone, a house or a car. I'm just saying she belongs to me and I belong to her. Tate might have a deeper meaning behind it but this is how I see it.
Can't get any more deliberately obtuse than this.
Feb 5, 2023·1 replyWhat will it take for some of you to stop idolizing this guy
Feb 5, 2023·2 repliesChillaI think it's the specific choice of using the word "property" that pushes buttons because it has a more materialistic connotation. The use of possessive terms when referring to someone you love however is natural to us all. My girl belongs to me, as in she's my girl, not your girl, and I belong to her, as in I'm her man, not somebody else's man. Me saying that she's my girl doesn't mean she's only here to please me and has no autonomy over her own body and mind. If a man's trying to holla at my girl and I yell "Ayo, get away from my property! Get your own girlfriend!" most people would understand that I'm not equating my girlfriend to a cellphone, a house or a car. I'm just saying she belongs to me and I belong to her. Tate might have a deeper meaning behind it but this is how I see it.
If someone was hitting on my girl and I said "Get away from my property!" I wouldn't have a girl anymore
Who tf uses the word property to describe another human being?
- Feb 5, 2023sir shrimpy
If someone was hitting on my girl and I said "Get away from my property!" I wouldn't have a girl anymore
Who tf uses the word property to describe another human being?
nigga really said that s*** like its a common occurrence to be calling people property
these niggas really just be saying whatever on here
