Reformed

5y

As someone who found the first season to be pretty bleh and a desperate attempt to cash in with a western crowd, s2 was a massive improvement in nearly every way though its attempts to be multi cultural still feel try hard at points.

Still an 8/10 for me tho

lilkuya

5y

Dang don’t scare me with the new WEP episode fellas…. I been waiting for it for a while

SBMike

5y

Solo Leveling needs a good anime adaption omg. Current arc so good.

flizzy

5y

My impression of Steins;Gate 0 is that it tried to restore the feeling of Steins;Gate, it's structured exactly like S;G but executed worse.

S;G has a slow paced first half transitioning into a fast paced, dramatic second half. The reason we needed this is for character building and world building, and having the tone shift from lighthearted and funny to dramatic and dark is effective. At this point we're already familiar with the characters and have a connection to them, and it's shocking to see them in such a dramatic situation, so we're now very invested into the plot.

S;G0 also has a slow paced first half, but this time it's gloomy and depressing instead of lighthearted, we already know most of the characters and the new characters aren't as exciting and interesting. It might've been because I watched it weekly, but usually in these episodes there isn't much plot going on, except for a cliffhanger in the last 3 minutes. So it's gloomy instead of funny, and there's also very little going on narratively and the characters who aren't Okabe or Maho had nothing to do.

When S;G0 got to its dramatic peak, it was more interesting but also felt more contrived than S;G. There's a fine line you can walk on with a time travel narrative. Obviously time travel isn't real and doesn't make sense but as long as it doesn't break the story's rules it's ok. S;G0 didn't break the story's rules but the final episodes felt very silly.

First of all, the cat girl and the transgender girl suddenly becoming powerful warriors when he goes into the war future was silly. The Kurisu lookalike that isn't Kurisu's daughter but just happens to look like her makes no sense other than to torture Okabe and confuse us. The blonde scientist villain reveal was predictable. Okabe's plan to repeat his actions 1000 times or something like that felt over the top. So he was discouraged from doing this kind of thing before but now it's ok?

I also see Steins;Gate's ending as a more complete, deserved ending. It didn't "need" Steins;Gate 0 and thematically it's just a detour. He ended up reaching the same conclusion in both stories, but this time he reached it slower.

What do I like about S;G0? I like the world and characters, but that was already created in S;G. Maho is a good new character. The AI plot was cute, I wish it had a better tie into the narrative but it was interesting, I liked it.

Edit: I forgot to say that the second half of S;G0 isn't as effective because you now expect it to get dramatic and dark. It also doesn't develop Okabe's character at all because you've seen him become serious and heroic before so it's not surprising when he does.

Fka Groovy

5y

Watched the promised Neverland. Pretty cool. Don't enjoy sister krones design and it's taking me out of it.

Went online and the amount of people being intellectually dishonest about it are disappointing.

proper

5y

nah I’m on episode 16 now. gonna finish the rest of s1 tom.

flizzy

5y

Wow this special episode was awful. I don't care if they'll do another season, I'm really pissed.

First off the editing and script for this were very on the nose and obnoxious. I was like "huh??" the entire episode as they kept dumping exposition and information at me and very quickly became numb to everything going on.

It's cool that they confirmed that their friends are now back to life? Because it wasn't clear from the previous episode, I thought they were still dead but their spirits were freed or whatever.

You'd think by how the last episode played out, that this would be the episode that Ai fights the big bad, instead it was just Neiru bullshit and the conclusion is the same, that Ai will be fighting the big bad but this time for Neiru.

They spiraled it into a dumb sci fi plot and even made it more like the Evangelion ending (the series ending) because apparently that's how you can end a story without any resolution.

There's still no closure for Rika and Momoe which I knew they couldn't fix. Also bringing the girls back to life means that it's not about dealing with grief and survivors guilt because look they're back to life! So what did they learn, what is the character arc? It screams unfinished.

I think the entire Neiru plot is very stupid. Ironically, they should let this anime die.

I'm also pissed at how they told Koito's story. Ok she had an unexplained mental illness. The way they told it made it seem like it's her fault for committing suicide or whatever.

Nayuta

5y

Need new Baki season already

SBMike

5y

Solo Leveling needs a good anime adaption omg. Current arc so good.

orangejuice

5y

so does this mean i should or shouldnt watch WEP

Tranquility

5y

I think it's a very worthwhile watch from a production aspect. One of the best looking TV anime I've ever seen.

Psychodrama

5y

steins gate is overhated in general

the only people I've seen DEEPLY hate it are people that expected to be the greatest sci fi anime of all time

flizzy

5y

Monkey's paw: it gets picked up by Crunchyroll

Fka Groovy

5y

Watched the promised Neverland. Pretty cool. Don't enjoy sister krones design and it's taking me out of it.

Went online and the amount of people being intellectually dishonest about it are disappointing.

SBMike

5y

At one point it was the highest rated anime on MAL. I had super high expectations when I saw it, it’s okay. My high expectations I’ll say kind of tainted the experience.

orangejuice

5y

What do you mean about the last part

Katsuragi

5y

Was waiting for this Wonder Egg special to binge and now everyone hates on it starting the show now

orangejuice

5y

so does this mean i should or shouldnt watch WEP

Psychodrama

5y

I think Erased is what Steins Gate aspired to be or should be

Fka Groovy

5y

People pretending that s*** wasn't racist af because japanese people apparently can't be racist

orangejuice

5y

I think our disagreement stems from how we think about 0. From what I’ve gathered, you seem to think 0 should, ideally, complete Steins;Gate (after all whats the point, perhaps).

I view it as another route in the Visual Novel, almost as a completely different show (aside from having to connect the first half, where they diverge).

I think you make good points though and I see why you dislike it, I appreciate you taking the time to explain in depth!

(I do agree the future s*** u mentioned was dumb as hell tho)