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  • May 5, 2020
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    Sunny Sun

    What the hell

    They’re love songs, by this logic all love songs by artists are creepy and weird if you take them literally

    I honestly don't see how you got out of that at all, there are many relatable and well written love songs

  • May 5, 2020
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    Pulp

    I honestly don't see how you got out of that at all, there are many relatable and well written love songs

    And there are many unrelateable love songs that are creepy and weird if you take them out of context

    Matter of fact anything can be creepy or weird when take out of context

  • May 5, 2020
    Sunny Sun

    And there are many unrelateable love songs that are creepy and weird if you take them out of context

    Matter of fact anything can be creepy or weird when take out of context

    Reading and interpreting the lyrics isn't taking them out of context lol

    And those songs are fairly straightforward

  • May 5, 2020
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    Pulp

    I mean to me stuff like Marvin's Room, HOWGH, Child's Play, Summer Games etc paint a weird view on relationships with women. It's cool if you like the songs but I understand why someone would find the lyrics overly possessive and grooming-like.

    I can't think of other artists who build their songs on wanting their partner to change their life to suit the artist more in a relationship, especially cause a lot of his other tracks are about how he can't change his lifestyle for the significant other lol. Like in the track on Views where he talks about how the girl complains about the homies having to live in the house with him.

    insecure, selfish and possessive, absolutely, but that isn't necessarily grooming

  • May 5, 2020
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    math fifty

    remember when he called himself the most important internet critic or something

    dudes relevance only lies between 4chan reddit and ktt

    niggas so up his own ass its crazy

    When did he say that? You got a link?

    I missed that if it was a tweet.

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    chili

    insecure, selfish and possessive, absolutely, but that isn't necessarily grooming

    I meant to say "manipulative", maybe I worded it wrong

  • Wasn't hotline bling s***ted on for being a nice guy song that his girl over him cause of the "you used to be a good girl" line?

  • May 5, 2020
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    chili

    insecure, selfish and possessive, absolutely, but that isn't necessarily grooming

    you can also groom adult women into a toxic life you've indoctrinated them in, social grooming is still a thing lol. just another form of drake's mental manipulation and gaslighting

  • May 5, 2020
    bobby

    it's crazy how a bald white man whose nickname is "melon" gets this forum more riled up than the typical trolls that slave away on here

  • May 5, 2020

    What the f*** is going on

  • May 5, 2020
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    I like Fantano but he's had a hard on for Drake for a little while now. At first he didnt seem like he hated Drake but now he s***s on him any chance he gets. I mean I don't know why he graded a demo throwaway project like it was a serious album just so he could give him a 3 lol.

  • May 5, 2020
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    Fantano ruining his credibility lol what kinda respected music reviewer goes on Twitter rants.
    Can't take his drake videos seriously if he has an agenda behind it

  • May 5, 2020
    KAMAUU

    I like Fantano but he's had a hard on for Drake for a little while now. At first he didnt seem like he hated Drake but now he s***s on him any chance he gets. I mean I don't know why he graded a demo throwaway project like it was a serious album just so he could give him a 3 lol.

    hes a contrarian

    he knows itll get him clicks and views

  • John Mauve

    this thread is quintessential KTT. future KTT historians could do a whole thesis based on this thread

  • May 5, 2020
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    kiddash3r

    Fantano ruining his credibility lol what kinda respected music reviewer goes on Twitter rants.
    Can't take his drake videos seriously if he has an agenda behind it

    He gave dark fantasy a 6

    Everything else are peanuts

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    door

    you can also groom adult women into a toxic life you've indoctrinated them in, social grooming is still a thing lol. just another form of drake's mental manipulation and gaslighting

    isn't that just manipulation though?

    edit: hmmm, didn't think about it but I guess it's possible for adults to be groomed as well
    catchthecatfish.com/adult-grooming

  • May 5, 2020
    The Darkest Angel

    When did he say that? You got a link?

    I missed that if it was a tweet.

    it was some s***ty video on the fantano channel i forgot which one lmao

  • May 5, 2020
    kiddash3r

    Fantano ruining his credibility lol what kinda respected music reviewer goes on Twitter rants.
    Can't take his drake videos seriously if he has an agenda behind it

    He always has an agenda when it comes to Drake

  • May 5, 2020
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    KAMAUU

    I like Fantano but he's had a hard on for Drake for a little while now. At first he didnt seem like he hated Drake but now he s***s on him any chance he gets. I mean I don't know why he graded a demo throwaway project like it was a serious album just so he could give him a 3 lol.

    Demo or not it’s still a project

    It’s not invulnerable to criticism & it’s Fantano’s opinion

    My problem is he went from being a critical thinker to now sounding like a trolling hater looking to push anti Drake agendas

  • May 5, 2020
    Sunny Sun

    Demo or not it’s still a project

    It’s not invulnerable to criticism & it’s Fantano’s opinion

    My problem is he went from being a critical thinker to now sounding like a trolling hater looking to push anti Drake agendas

    I didnt say it was invulnerable to criticism. I said you obviously dont critique it the same way you critique a full fledged album.

  • No joke, we need a Fantano section.

  • May 5, 2020

    He did the same bs with Care Package. Which is even less of a project. That s*** was a compilation

  • May 5, 2020
    chili

    isn't that just manipulation though?

    edit: hmmm, didn't think about it but I guess it's possible for adults to be groomed as well
    https://catchthecatfish.com/adult-grooming/

    I have seen firsthand people be groomed by abusers (as adults) then trapped in abusive relationships
    child grooming is inherently the same, an (adult) "grooming" them until they're guard is lowered enough for them to start their abuse. A lot of people don't realize that a majority of pedophiles who groom children DO NOT wait until they're an adult before they sexually abuse them. They gain their trust while they're underage and once they have that, start enacting their abuse. Grooming is a form of manipulation in its purest form, basically; the abuse is just the main goal.

  • May 5, 2020

    I fw Fantano too but at this point I just ignore his Drake videos the bias comes through too strong

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