absolutely, TLOP was iconic as an era cuz of all that stuff. but I liked what someone else said itt about iconic and classic being different things, that's also how I see it. WTT is also iconic but musically not a classic album

Oh definitely I know what you mean lol

drippinsopretty

But then again maybe She Will..... Yea...

Some Kanye fans don't rate the album that highly

But it's one of the biggest rap albums ever ofc it's a classic lol

I think it’s a fantastic album and it’s top 5 for me in his discog

If we’re gonna nitpick, then yeah I don’t think it’s a classic. But I absolutely don’t wanna hear mfs tell me s*** like Views or American Gangster or other “well liked but no where near the best of that artists catalog” albums are classics

As I told @op

You could make the argument that DAMN is a classic just based on commercial impact and how successful Kendrick was that year. However, quality wise I don’t think it quite reaches classic level.

More Life might be better than Views, but it don’t got the right narrative

if you wanna make the distinction between iconic and classic i understand that

Still getting streamed to this day too

@simulacrum We including enquiring minds and Juicy vol 9 on the Three 6 classic list or nah

I’d say drakes only classics are TC and NWTS

Bro I remember on KTT1 they used to say Grad was kanye’s worst album f***ing insane

We're counting mixtapes too

TLOP ran 2016 alongside Views

Messy commercial release the only reason ppl deny it's classic status

SFG, IYRT

i remember that s***. it’s his most enduring album lol

Definitely agree about AG

I think TLOP and Views are the same situation where it's like either they both are or they both aren't tbh

Cloud Rap, Dirty South, and Vaporwave as we know them cease to exist without c&s. Bro made me want to learn how to DJ

I got a 10 year old cousin who’s favorite Kanye songs are I wonder and Stronger lmao

It’s rap’s answer to Thriller

iconic moment undoubtedly, too much mid music on it to be a classic album. same with views

mixtapes mean nothing to me tbh. Most mixtapes are forgotten so saying SFG is a classic tape don’t mean much. If you’re trying to equate it as a classic in general, I disagree

i wonder is an album cut non single and you cant scroll on iktok for three minutes and not hear it

It’s like a 7.5-8/10 but it was a huge moment in 2016

TLOP, VIEWS and Coloring Book had a f***ing chokehold on the general public in 2016. And yes, I know Chance fell off and Coloring Book was too religious and preachy, but it’s undeniable how BIG that moment was for him. Chance was selling out arenas based off a mixtape.

Yes and Both Worlds *69