Comcast copping DC when WB is stripped for parts?

Universal Restores the SnyderVerse?

Netflix already snatching their shows

netflix looking like the move for snyderverse

Netflix don’t got a real theatrical play tho

I’m tryna see that in THEATERS

yeah would be wild af but who knows

its funny because its absolutely f*cking true and i love that this is the reason they have failed as a studio

Wait wym?

do not listen to them lmao

imagine saying someting this ignorant

after WB removed over 30 minutes of footage for their massive blockbuster BvS and banking their entire dc universe on this movie, the first week reception and second week drop got WB very very very VERY nervous and made them rethink and retool their entire slate

the entire thing was revamped.

the next movie (SUICIDE SQUAD) was HEAVILY reedited with a good part of the soundtrack replaced and the third act completely different. as a result WB continuously retooled movies that were either already in post production or in the middle of production. these decisions that they (the studio) were making ultimately led to the hiring of Joss Whedon and the recutting and editing of JUSTICE LEAGUE.

WE all know how that went. the fans called bullshit, the directors subtly called bullshit (except patty jenkins lmao. she thought she was good and they tossed her ass too eventually) and that led to wb trying literally anything to make their continued box office failures post 2018 into hits. they poured too much money, threw away talented directors (snyder, nolan) made bad business deals. had a semi successful streaming platform turn into a unsuccessful streaming platform in 3 years, gave away huge bonuses to ceos and company men. you name it, they did it poorly.

and here we are. the company has a huge chance of going bankrupt (though i dont think they will, the mere possibility is hilarious and also speaks volumes), there are calls for the ceo to resign which would be the second ceo to go within 5 years. they are trying desperately to make deals to keep their company afloat.

ALL BECAUSE THEY COULDNT LEAVE 30 MINUTES IN A F*CKING MOVIE.

its astoundingly hilarious. and literally all true.

First half of your post has no relation to your second half.

Snyder doesn't need WB's help to turn his movies into garbage.

are you okay?

what are you talking about? i mentioned snyder ONE time and it was just to say wb lost his talents.

what part confused you? the part where i discuss the 30 Minute movie claim? or the part where i lay out the repercussions and continued foolish decisions that wb has made starting with the primary foolish decision to remove 30 minutes from the movie?

you see how they are all a part of the same topic? you good now?

"All of this because they took 30 minutes out of BVS in 2016"

You: Absolutely f***ing true.

do you have some sort of counter narrative youd like to talk about or are you GIGA triggered because i mentioned snyders name (bc its his movie that the 30 got taken out of)?

the floor is yours

you really really REALLY cannot say this when you willingly released The Flash into theatres LMFAO

What was the point of the merger then

for the suits up top to make money

TLDR: Their main source of income, selling ads on broadcast TV, is dying. Their future, streaming, is uncertain. And movies in theaters have been down across the board.

The best 2 comparisons for WBD are Disney and Paramount, because they have very similar business models (movies, TV, streaming) and aren't supported larger parent companies in other industries. Both of these companies are struggling as well for basically the same reasons.

WB Discovery is heavily invested in the cable business, Food Network, HGTV, TLC, TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, Discovery, Animal Planet, CNN, TCM, truTV, ID, OWN among others.

Broadcast tv, and especially cable, is dying. The money they used to make from selling ads is drying up. A network like TNT, which used to be a steady, reliable source of income is essentially dead. The only thing of value on it is licensed sporting events, which are expensive. Paramount is in a very similar situation. Even Bob Iger has been playing with the idea of trying to sell off Disney's TV assets.

Streaming is replacing cable, but WB, along with a lot of their competitors, have struggled to get their streaming platforms where they want them to be. Max has only recently become profitable. In 2023 year they made $111 million from streaming. in 2022 streaming was a net loss of $634 million.

The worse news is, they've sunk a lot of money into streaming, and it's unclear if it's even going to pay off.

Netflix got to where they are by being first, and having a lot of cheap money to burn from investors. WB isn't first and they don't have money to burn. So they're in this weird place where they're wondering if they should keep dumping money into streaming or pivot. They've spent a lot of money and they're directionless. Investors don't like that.

The business of showing movies in theaters is down and has been in bad shape since the pandemic. Losing most of 2020 and a depressed 2021 killed them. Box office numbers still haven't returned to pre-pandemic levels. Then the studios f***ed themselves again this year with the strikes.

The highest grossing studio this year, Universal, won because they offered up "new" (newish) ideas and made them for a reasonable price. Instead of spending $200+ million to flog audiences with the same tired IP.

WBD made $42 billion in revenue in 2023. Even in the dream scenario where DC managed to put out 3 separate billion dollar movies this year, it would still only be a fraction of the company's overall revenue. DC is only one part of a very large company.

They ARE hurting their relationship with creatives, but I think it has very little to do with BVS. I think they did more damage to those relationships in 2020 by pulling almost all their movies (except Tenet) form theaters and putting them on Max (that's when Nolan had his falling out with them) and under Zaslav who has been shelving finished projects for tax write offs. And I don't think that's any sort of hot take.

I don't really know what the solution is, the industry is changing and all these companies are struggling. F*** the executives, but hopefully they figure it out, cause I don't want the industry to just be Apple, Amazon, Disney, Netflix and whatever megacorporation scoops up the rest.

Disney paramount is not struggling anywhere near (or has had the same terrible publicity) as warner/discovery. warnermedia (which was confusingly months later changed to Warnermax) has been struggling all the while being accused of hiding sub numbers and removing programs that people want to watch. The biggest issue I remember Disney+ having was taking off old suggestive movies or scenes from their 1940-60s archive. Not even comparable

it seems like you explaining the financial woes that WB is going through compared to their competitors is unironically agreeing with my assessment that they are blowing through money with bad or questionable financial decisions and rumors of bankruptcy are rising. Idk what the issues you had with those statements I made are.

I never singled out the DC brand or division of WB. I mentioned streaming AND overpaying ceos. You mentioning that they are hurting their brand while dealing with creatives doesn’t dispute anything I said. I mentioned BRIEFLY that they lost two creative talents in Snyder and Nolan which supports what you said. I never mentioned that it was singlularly because of the DC brand.

We agree on your last statement (and most of what else you said) about what the solution is. The cable model wasn’t necessarily terrible but the streaming model is broken and to be fair to it, still in its infancy. So they will make mistakes. But these major LEGACY studios jumping on bandwagons with blinders on only seeing dollar signs with zero idea minded ppl behind them are foolish and WB is the STAPLE of that. They jumped in with a new CEO, made questionable to bad decisions, overpaid and dismissed ppl, and are now trying to make deals with other companies. They are the blueprint of how to NOT do things quickly.

I agree. Cable is dying, streaming is the future (for now) and they are starting to turn a profit. WB, regardless of how much they made in the previous quarter or year, is still not a stable company, is still struggling with their brand and their streaming platform.

Wb made 42 billion. I am not singling out just DC. This was never just about dc. Warner still has sports deals, parks, and TONS of other divisions that make them money. And yet they are still financially in trouble. The MAIN point I mentioned (or alluded to) was that them spending TONS of money on these movie projects that offer little to no return when they, at their investor meeting call, specifically mentioned the DC brand as something they were focusing on and a brand that yields a lot of returns, are still putting tons of millions into diminishing returns.

If your MAIN ISSUE is with me saying that they revamped their entire DC slate (that they were full throttle on and were prepared and already did pump HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO) because of a 30 minute omission and that has caused them to spiral out of control, then I apologize. I figured it was obvious with the other things I mentioned (ceos money, streaming) that they are making bad decisions across the board.

But it IS an undeniable fact, that WB, because of BvS, revamped and messed up a 100% confirmed multibillion dollar potentiality.

liferaft

Alright, good s***, sounds like we actually agree on a lot of things

Looking forward to Rebel Moon 2

yikes, waner bros downfall is nigh

Crapshoot Zaslav is on the chopping block