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  • Apr 11, 2021
    Super Mario

    The bird at the end at Mikasa is a parasitic jaeger. Among other things, it feeds on smaller birds or attacks other birds to steal their food. You could also call it an "attack" bird.

    ISAYAMA!!!!!!!!!!

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    Chief Julio

    My understanding is Mikasa still loving him and not forgetting about him is what he didn’t see (as we can tell from his reaction speaking with Armin as well as the 3-year skip ahead to the epilogue). Doing what needed to be done despite still loving Eren ended the curse. A call back to Eren Kruger telling Grisha to love someone inside the walls otherwise this cycle would continue.

    but why couldn’t he see that? I think it might’ve been just to justify Eren being a d\*\*\* with Mikasa and Armin while still being “good.” Like, maybe Ymir didn’t want Eren to see what Mikasa was going to do so that Eren will do everything he can to make sure that Mikasa kills him (telling her he always hated her and f\*\*\*ing Armin up)... but why don’t simply make Eren being a d\*\*\* and leave it like that? What was the point in trying to make Eren a hero?

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    DVLPR

    but why couldn’t he see that? I think it might’ve been just to justify Eren being a d\*\*\* with Mikasa and Armin while still being “good.” Like, maybe Ymir didn’t want Eren to see what Mikasa was going to do so that Eren will do everything he can to make sure that Mikasa kills him (telling her he always hated her and f\*\*\*ing Armin up)... but why don’t simply make Eren being a d\*\*\* and leave it like that? What was the point in trying to make Eren a hero?

    He knew his role in everything was to lay waste with The Rumbling, and their role was to kill him. He figured that in their current resolve they wouldn’t have the heart to do it, so he backed them into a corner where “he always hated them” to get them to not feel bad about killing him when the time comes. Those weren’t his actually feelings towards his friends, so he felt he owed them an explanation about his true intentions. He couldn’t give those after he died, so he using the Founder’s powers to drum up some temporary memory loss to be returned postmortem.

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    Chief Julio

    He knew his role in everything was to lay waste with The Rumbling, and their role was to kill him. He figured that in their current resolve they wouldn’t have the heart to do it, so he backed them into a corner where “he always hated them” to get them to not feel bad about killing him when the time comes. Those weren’t his actually feelings towards his friends, so he felt he owed them an explanation about his true intentions. He couldn’t give those after he died, so he using the Founder’s powers to drum up some temporary memory loss to be returned postmortem.

    ”why was it Mikasa?”... “well, that’s something only the founder Ymir would know. I myself I’m still wondering about what exactly it is that Mikasa will be doing. I don’t know yet. All I knew for certain was the end result that Mikasa being chosen would result in.” He knew that their role was to kill him but apparently he didn’t know it was Mikasa who would cut his head. I just don’t see what was the point, it would make no difference if he knew.

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    DVLPR

    ”why was it Mikasa?”... “well, that’s something only the founder Ymir would know. I myself I’m still wondering about what exactly it is that Mikasa will be doing. I don’t know yet. All I knew for certain was the end result that Mikasa being chosen would result in.” He knew that their role was to kill him but apparently he didn’t know it was Mikasa who would cut his head. I just don’t see what was the point, it would make no difference if he knew.

    See that’s where the confusion lies because 1\. We know the end of the curse had to deal with Mikasa’s decision and 2\. We all (Eren included) knew that Eren was gonna die. That’s why I believe her actually killing him WASN’T the decision. The decision was whether she would resent him for his actions and choose to leave him in the past, or still hold him dear even after he’s gone, despite in their time in the Paths when he urged her to move on.

  • Apr 11, 2021
    DVLPR

    ”Eren... thank you for turning yourself into a mass murderer for our sake”

    Ngl that dialogue was so on the nose wtf

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    Chief Julio

    See that’s where the confusion lies because 1\. We know the end of the curse had to deal with Mikasa’s decision and 2\. We all (Eren included) knew that Eren was gonna die. That’s why I believe her actually killing him WASN’T the decision. The decision was whether she would resent him for his actions and choose to leave him in the past, or still hold him dear even after he’s gone, despite in their time in the Paths when he urged her to move on.

    if that’s the case then this ending is even worse. So the key to break the curse was for Mikasa to continue to love a mass murderer even years after he’s gone? Loving the man who slaughtered her village, cut her tongue, gouged her eye, enslaved her, etc; for 2000 years brought brought Ymir a lot of pain and she wanted to free herself from that. The key is Mikasa. The reason is a mystery. But there’s a parallel between Yimir’s love for Fritz and Mikasa’s love for Eren (she’s sort of a slave to Eren and will continue to love him even if he’s a mass murderer), so maybe that’s why Mikasa must kill Eren in order to free Ymir, as a symbol of what Ymir should’ve done to Fritz and couldn’t because of that toxic love. So... wouldn’t it make more sense that in order to break the curse Mikasa should finally STOP loving Eren (a mass murderer) after killing him and actually MOVE ON, as Ymir should’ve done?

  • Chief Julio 🇪🇸
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    DVLPR

    if that’s the case then this ending is even worse. So the key to break the curse was for Mikasa to continue to love a mass murderer even years after he’s gone? Loving the man who slaughtered her village, cut her tongue, gouged her eye, enslaved her, etc; for 2000 years brought brought Ymir a lot of pain and she wanted to free herself from that. The key is Mikasa. The reason is a mystery. But there’s a parallel between Yimir’s love for Fritz and Mikasa’s love for Eren (she’s sort of a slave to Eren and will continue to love him even if he’s a mass murderer), so maybe that’s why Mikasa must kill Eren in order to free Ymir, as a symbol of what Ymir should’ve done to Fritz and couldn’t because of that toxic love. So... wouldn’t it make more sense that in order to break the curse Mikasa should finally STOP loving Eren (a mass murderer) after killing him and actually MOVE ON, as Ymir should’ve done?

    I honestly agree with you on this, this is one part of it I feel like could have been fleshed out better. Maybe in Yams' interpretation he felt like love needed to break a cycle of hate, but when you include Ymir's story into it then it definitely needed some tuning up.

  • Apr 11, 2021
    DVLPR

    if that’s the case then this ending is even worse. So the key to break the curse was for Mikasa to continue to love a mass murderer even years after he’s gone? Loving the man who slaughtered her village, cut her tongue, gouged her eye, enslaved her, etc; for 2000 years brought brought Ymir a lot of pain and she wanted to free herself from that. The key is Mikasa. The reason is a mystery. But there’s a parallel between Yimir’s love for Fritz and Mikasa’s love for Eren (she’s sort of a slave to Eren and will continue to love him even if he’s a mass murderer), so maybe that’s why Mikasa must kill Eren in order to free Ymir, as a symbol of what Ymir should’ve done to Fritz and couldn’t because of that toxic love. So... wouldn’t it make more sense that in order to break the curse Mikasa should finally STOP loving Eren (a mass murderer) after killing him and actually MOVE ON, as Ymir should’ve done?

    This all just sounds lame even discussing it

  • Apr 11, 2021

    Seems that Isayama had no idea to explain ymirs fate and the end of the titan without opening even more plot holes, so he connected it to mikasa in very a sloppy way somehow

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    DVLPR

    if that’s the case then this ending is even worse. So the key to break the curse was for Mikasa to continue to love a mass murderer even years after he’s gone? Loving the man who slaughtered her village, cut her tongue, gouged her eye, enslaved her, etc; for 2000 years brought brought Ymir a lot of pain and she wanted to free herself from that. The key is Mikasa. The reason is a mystery. But there’s a parallel between Yimir’s love for Fritz and Mikasa’s love for Eren (she’s sort of a slave to Eren and will continue to love him even if he’s a mass murderer), so maybe that’s why Mikasa must kill Eren in order to free Ymir, as a symbol of what Ymir should’ve done to Fritz and couldn’t because of that toxic love. So... wouldn’t it make more sense that in order to break the curse Mikasa should finally STOP loving Eren (a mass murderer) after killing him and actually MOVE ON, as Ymir should’ve done?

    Yeah, I agree. Also, in that sense Mikasa serves as the ultimate symbol of freedom (not Eren, as we we're led to believe).

  • Apr 11, 2021
    aglow

    Yeah, I agree. Also, in that sense Mikasa serves as the ultimate symbol of freedom (not Eren, as we we're led to believe).

    Absolutely! The ending even shows Eren as a free bird wrapping the scarf around Mikasa’s neck and she even thanks him like a submissive slave. Eren ends up being the symbol of freedom and Mikasa is the opposite. It seems like Efren’s fetish (or perhaps Isayamas’) of Mikasa not loving any other man “for at least 10 years” (lol) came true.

    Im not sure if there’s plot holes in all of this, but what’s clear to me is that there’s definitely not a positive message

  • Apr 11, 2021
    ragedsycokiller

    F*** yall weirdos wanted Eren f\*\*\*ing Midstoria so bad for some reason

    that was weird as s*** tbh

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    I really don't like Mikassa as a character, feel like that ending was a really s\*\*\* way to make her relevant after pretty much not having any presence for like the whole story

    EDIT: Feel like the whole Hizuru and Mikasa thing was another attempt to bring Mikasa some spotlight but that didn't lead like anywhere at all? That whole s\*\*\* became irrelevant extremely quickly

  • Apr 11, 2021

    Final chapter is out

    Time to catch up and enjoy the read after so long

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    redtruth

    I really don't like Mikassa as a character, feel like that ending was a really s\*\*\* way to make her relevant after pretty much not having any presence for like the whole story

    EDIT: Feel like the whole Hizuru and Mikasa thing was another attempt to bring Mikasa some spotlight but that didn't lead like anywhere at all? That whole s\*\*\* became irrelevant extremely quickly

    No presence? That's a hot take since she been by erens side

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    ragedsycokiller

    No presence? That's a hot take since she been by erens side

    You mean in Erens shadow for the entire series right?

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    redtruth

    You mean in Erens shadow for the entire series right?

    I was actually going to add that as well lol. But that's still a presence. In the manga she has a lot of moments in first two chapters of her caring and being pivotal in some of the battles inside the walls

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    ragedsycokiller

    I was actually going to add that as well lol. But that's still a presence. In the manga she has a lot of moments in first two chapters of her caring and being pivotal in some of the battles inside the walls

    I used the word "presence" but I think you what I mean, shes just a really boring character with her only trait being that she loves Eren and that she excels in combat due to her being an Ackermam.

    Feel like shes a very by the book standard female character that depends on male protagonist that you see in so many shonens. This whole "it was all because of Mikasa" feels very forced and a cheap way to develop her character/make her relevant

  • redtruth

    I used the word "presence" but I think you what I mean, shes just a really boring character with her only trait being that she loves Eren and that she excels in combat due to her being an Ackermam.

    Feel like shes a very by the book standard female character that depends on male protagonist that you see in so many shonens. This whole "it was all because of Mikasa" feels very forced and a cheap way to develop her character/make her relevant

    Aw okay I get ya

  • Apr 11, 2021
    gabo

    yo how are all the marleyans still alive on that plateau after jean connie etc transformed

    Titans went straight for the worm, and they weren't standing right next to the Eldians either

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    redtruth

    I used the word "presence" but I think you what I mean, shes just a really boring character with her only trait being that she loves Eren and that she excels in combat due to her being an Ackermam.

    Feel like shes a very by the book standard female character that depends on male protagonist that you see in so many shonens. This whole "it was all because of Mikasa" feels very forced and a cheap way to develop her character/make her relevant

    When did you pick up the manga? The anime nerfed her personality a lot during the 1st 3 seasons compared to how she acted or thought during those same arcs in the manga

  • Apr 11, 2021
    HURRY UP TWO

    When did you pick up the manga? The anime nerfed her personality a lot during the 1st 3 seasons compared to how she acted or thought during those same arcs in the manga

    I read from the beginning, been a long time but I really don't remember her being interesting or better than how she was in the last few arcs. Was hoping she would get some development once they revealed the whole Hizuru thing but that s*** became irrelevant as soon as that scene was over and was only brought up a few times since then

  • Apr 11, 2021
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    olob

    They’re like 11-12 episodes in. Levi’s dub voice >>>>>>

    Levi dub is seriously good s***

  • Bit the bullet, watching sub. On second last episode. Man this s*** is... How do they come up with this

    Fuck Eren