Chief Julio

4y

This Sunday's the one fellas.

Stardust

4y

Eren the goat man, that was that attack titan rage, man was livid man was even disappointed by his own father, and the crazy part is he isnt a emotionless psycho, he was looking at the kids dead bodies with grief and sadness, he keeps telling himself and others to keep fighting and move forward but maybe this is all to convince himself to do these atrocious things to reach his end goal. Cant wait to see what happens with his character

aglow

4y

Nah fam, Eren IS a psycho.

aglow

4y

Nah fam, Eren IS a psycho.

Stardust

4y

I think eren is more complex than that, now with all these revelations, with more to come, its more apparent than ever to me

aglow

4y

To me, Eren is def more of a villain - a very complex, and even tragic one.

If u think back to S4 pt.1, when Eren infiltrates Marley and confronts Reiner - Eren plays mind games until Reiner (thinking Eren is there to kill him) falls to his knees and confesses that the REAL reason he broke the wall was not "to save the world", but because he wanted to. In spite of growing attached to the ppl of Paradis, Reiner still did what he did because he WANTED to be seen as a hero, and by consequence, receive his father's affection.

Then, that's when Eren tells him "I'm just like you" - because, in spite of learning some Marleyans are good, regular people (and even befriending Falco), Eren ultimately WANTS to kill them all.

In the show Eren literally tells us, the audience, that unlike Zeke - he was actually BORN like this. Meaning, Eren innately craves conflict.

But yeah, Isayama does an AMAZING job in the way he presents Eren - who will ultimately go down as one incredibly memorable character.

Stardust

4y

I see what you're saying, and i dont necessarily think you're wrong, but i think he's using violence as a means to an end.

Armin said in season 1 that its the people who are willing to sacrifice everything, including their humanity, that can change the world, and we can see that in this series this belief armin has is founded. Erwin, zeke, eren now, reiner, all these characters in a way have done horrendous things to change the world in a way that they believe its right. You can argue erwin, reiner and probably at this point zeke didnt necessarily change the world, but they've surely changed the course of history doing "great" deeds. I think eren fully believes that this is an undeniable truth of the world he lives in, and considering his dream is so important to him, he cant allow himself to wait, hoping for a miracle to happen, which is essentially what armin believes (in season 4 part 1 he asks himself if there was another way to free paradis other than having to attack Liberio and potentially use the rumbling).

Eren and armin share their dream, but eren is more active and isnt as optimistic as armin, hell he actively violently killed the human traffickers when he was a kid, its in his nature to attack in a brute way to further advance his goal, and maybe he has memories of the future that may have influenced him in this direction.

Also, and i admit it took me a rewatch and someone else pointing it out to me, eren isnt heartless. He also isnt apathic. He, ever since season 1, carries a heavy ass boulder on his shoulders, that has only gotten bigger as more people died for his sake, and he always felt grief and at worst desperation in the deaths of other due to him either directly or indirectly (think of sasha's death and his reaction which, unlike what conney thought, was desperate and full of resentment). Even in the latest episode, eren has a instinctual reaction to try to stop zeke from transforming the eldians and falco, and in the last episode, he looks at the dead bodies with a sad, melancholic glare. He doesnt necessarily like what hes doing, who would after all, but he has to do it. He has to do it because its his dream, because he has to save mikasa and armin, because like erwin said in season 3 part 2, he has to give worth to the soldiers that fell to save him. And he has to remind himself every time that he has to keep moving forward and fight, because if he doesnt fight he'll die, and if he doesnt advance everything that happened would have been for nothing.

I dont know what will happen, i dont know if eren will do even worse moral choices, i dont know if eren's dream will ever realize, but what i wrote i think will remain true even if eren does the evilest, wildest s***, although at that point maybe id be less forgiving lol

Stardust

4y

I think that season 1 is extremely important to lay the foundations of eren as a character and the story itself, especially the battle of trost, mikasa's flashback and what Armin said about erwin. These imo contain the universal themes that the series keeps going back to later on, and in these episodes its more apparent than ever, with literal callbacks to episode 1 in episode 79

aglow

4y

Yeah, it's no coincidence the show keeps making callbacks to past seasons.

A VERY important moment is when Armin shows Eren the book of the outside world - which basically acts as a trigger for Eren.

Chief Julio

4y

This Sunday's the one fellas.

ragedsycokiller

4y

Spoiler talk

Okay i've seen people on tik tok say Eren doesn't see all of the future when he kissed Historia's hand. I thought that's why people were mad af at Eren's character at the ending of the manga? I assumed he saw all the s\*\*\* as well from how they explained it unless I got something wrong.

ragedsycokiller

4y

Spoiler talk

Okay i've seen people on tik tok say Eren doesn't see all of the future when he kissed Historia's hand. I thought that's why people were mad af at Eren's character at the ending of the manga? I assumed he saw all the s\*\*\* as well from how they explained it unless I got something wrong.

Stardust

4y

Today is the day

aglow

4y

When Eren kissed historia's hand, he didnt exactly see memories from future Eren. He saw the last of his father's memories. Memories which Grisha received from future Eren.

Basically, at the time, Eren saw his father's PAST - not his own future.

Even tho Grisha said the Attack Titan's power is to "see the future", that ain't quite right - rather, its unique ability is being able to send memories to past inheritors - this is why Eren cannot see his own future by himself OR send memories to himself. His father was essentially a workaround.

Now, VERY important to keep in mind - Grisha only saw very specific memories. Meaning - Eren does NOT know how the whole story will play out.

aglow

4y

When Eren kissed historia's hand, he didnt exactly see memories from future Eren. He saw the last of his father's memories. Memories which Grisha received from future Eren.

Basically, at the time, Eren saw his father's PAST - not his own future.

Even tho Grisha said the Attack Titan's power is to "see the future", that ain't quite right - rather, its unique ability is being able to send memories to past inheritors - this is why Eren cannot see his own future by himself OR send memories to himself. His father was essentially a workaround.

Now, VERY important to keep in mind - Grisha only saw very specific memories. Meaning - Eren does NOT know how the whole story will play out.

aglow

4y

Nah fam, Eren IS a psycho.