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  • Updated Jan 7, 2020

    UPDATE: 183 People Arrested for Arson During Australian Bushfires


    More than 180 alleged arsonists have been arrested since the start of the bushfire season, with 29 blazes deliberately lit in the Shoalhaven region of southeast NSW in just three months.

    The Shoalhaven fires were lit between July and September last year, with Kempsey recording 27 deliberately lit fires, NSW Bureau of Crime and Statistics and Research data shows.
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    The majority of bushfires are started either intentionally or unintentionally by people.
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    As fires continue to burn in different parts of Australia, investigators work to provide answers on the exact causes of devastating blazes.

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    Queensland police say a discarded cigarette likely sparked the bushfire which destroyed 11 homes and the historic Binna Burra Lodge in the Gold Coast hinterland in September.

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    Residents who almost lost their homes in the Gold Coast hinterland bushfires have expressed anger over reports the blaze may have started during army live firing exercises at neighbouring Kokoda Barracks.

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    Police say a 16-year-old boy has been charged with starting a Central Queensland bushfire that has destroyed 14 homes, as firefighters concentrate on strengthening containment lines and extinguishing existing fires before the weather deteriorates over the weekend.

  • Jan 4, 2020

    bro these climate activists got to chill

  • Jan 4, 2020

    what tf is wrong with people bro

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    Yes, as most bushfires in Australia been in the past but they’ve never been this severe because of the changing climate

    Op you’re trying to push and agenda of climate change not being real in 2020 for whatever reason when it’s widely regarded by scientists be real, go back to doing holocaust denying or whatever you were doing in other threads, you no little of what’s going on in Australia based off what you’ve been posting

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    DEL_245

    Yes, as most bushfires in Australia been in the past but they’ve never been this severe because of the changing climate

    Op you’re trying to push and agenda of climate change not being real in 2020 for whatever reason when it’s widely regarded by scientists be real, go back to doing holocaust denying or whatever you were doing in other threads, you no little of what’s going on in Australia based off what you’ve been posting

    Citation needed. Stop making statements with no evidence. Far too easy for you to say this based on conjecture, enough. Now I need the empirical, you feel me?

  • Jan 4, 2020
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    Aeptia3

    Citation needed. Stop making statements with no evidence. Far too easy for you to say this based on conjecture, enough. Now I need the empirical, you feel me?

    theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/11/what-are-the-links-between-climate-change-and-bushfires-explainer

    it's not as simple as the climate changing = fire it's that the changing climate creates conditions for these fires to be much worse than they could be previously

    again we have arsonists yearly in Australia causing bushfires but they haven't been at this scale before in the history of Australia because of our Liberal government's horrid climate policies

  • Jan 4, 2020

    we had one of the worst droughts in the history of Australia last year but no the climate is changing at all let's just live in denial

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    op probably cares more about disproving climate change than he does about the lives that have been ruined by the fires

  • Jan 4, 2020
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    Aeptia3

    Citation needed. Stop making statements with no evidence. Far too easy for you to say this based on conjecture, enough. Now I need the empirical, you feel me?

    Are you actually trying to deny climate change? how are you going to deny pure scientific fact and evidence we need a ktt section for the +1 chromosome members

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    THE BRAIDS

    Are you actually trying to deny climate change? how are you going to deny pure scientific fact and evidence we need a ktt section for the +1 chromosome members

    No one is denying climate change. It’s how these fires are starting. The LA fires, these ones etc. Climate change exists for sure but there are also ppl destroying the world in order to further their agenda.

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    Giannis

    No one is denying climate change. It’s how these fires are starting. The LA fires, these ones etc. Climate change exists for sure but there are also ppl destroying the world in order to further their agenda.

    no I'm pretty sure op is actually a climate change denier

  • Jan 4, 2020
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    DEL_245

    no I'm pretty sure op is actually a climate change denier

    I'm definitely not a change denier. I just want actual evidence instead of conjecture. I'm about to go through The Guardian link you sent, looking through the sources they cite to see whether their claims actually hold up to scrutiny.

    I've seen a few things in the past year which have made me skeptical that ecologists are being honest about global warming, especially when they have something to gain from such information.

    Of course, anyone questioning the narrative must hate it and, according to you, swallowing the messaging we get from the elite instead of doing our own due diligence is wise. Unfortunately for me, I have reason to distrust those in power in society, and now require empirical evidence for anything they say.

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    DEL_245

    op probably cares more about disproving climate change than he does about the lives that have been ruined by the fires

    How can I care about the lives of people I don't know? Unless I know of the victim, I can't at all be earnest in sympathy, as that would just be disguised sympathy for myself.

    If you don't know the victims either, then claiming you care about the lives of the people ruined by fires is entirely fiction. Also, how would me caring about their lives help them in any way? Hubristic much?

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    Aeptia3

    How can I care about the lives of people I don't know? Unless I know of the victim, I can't at all be earnest in sympathy, as that would just be disguised sympathy for myself.

    If you don't know the victims either, then claiming you care about the lives of the people ruined by fires is entirely fiction. Also, how would me caring about their lives help them in any way? Hubristic much?

    I just want you to know you are trash

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    Synopsis

    I just want you to know you are trash

    I don't care what you think of me. I need evidence for any claim you make from now on, or I'll just ignore your posts

  • Jan 4, 2020

    dude is out here talking about sources but literally sourced someone whos biggest inspiration is ayn f***ing rand lmfao. like at this point if you think climate change is a hoax or not a serious issue, then you are willfully ignorant. nothing more nothing less.

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    Aeptia3

    I don't care what you think of me. I need evidence for any claim you make from now on, or I'll just ignore your posts

    one day i hope to live in a society where all you bad faith actors and trolls come to grips with the fact your illogical nonsense does not merit actual discourse. when you decide to deal in fantasies and knowingly spread false info, you have no choice but to reject any claims to the contrary despite overwhelming facts that are counter to the nonsense you believe. but thats ok, you can just write them off and try to paint yourself as an intellectual when in reality youre a f***ing halfwit edge lord pos.

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    Aeptia3

    How can I care about the lives of people I don't know? Unless I know of the victim, I can't at all be earnest in sympathy, as that would just be disguised sympathy for myself.

    If you don't know the victims either, then claiming you care about the lives of the people ruined by fires is entirely fiction. Also, how would me caring about their lives help them in any way? Hubristic much?

    I have family members who have been affected by the bushfires d***head

  • Jan 4, 2020

    Are these man made fires or no? P sure that’s the point of this thread

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    DEL_245

    I have family members who have been affected by the bushfires d***head

    Yea that’s a d*** move, hope everyone’s ok

  • Jan 4, 2020

    Some of them could be women made

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    Giannis

    Yea that’s a d*** move, hope everyone’s ok

    @lil_clam Did I lie though? I'd be posturing myself as virtuous when I am nowhere near the place where such incident is occurring. All I can say is I'm sorry to hear that, but I cannot honestly pretend that I can sympathise with the situation. I feel that would be disrespectful as I'd be using someone else's pain for my own social benefit.

  • Jan 4, 2020
    DEL_245

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/11/what-are-the-links-between-climate-change-and-bushfires-explainer

    it's not as simple as the climate changing = fire it's that the changing climate creates conditions for these fires to be much worse than they could be previously

    again we have arsonists yearly in Australia causing bushfires but they haven't been at this scale before in the history of Australia because of our Liberal government's horrid climate policies

    yup. same case w/ the amazon

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    we have arsonists pretty much every year, that hasn’t changed
    however the fires haven’t been this extreme before due to the effects of climate change
    we’ve also had gov cuts to our volunteer firefighters which is not helping and is disgusting tbh

  • Jan 4, 2020

    Nah man ngo's and these activists are going to save us. How did taxing people more prevent this? Lmaoo clowns

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