I’m trying to figure out what went wrong this season and I think it has something to do with stakes. Before this season, we know that Barry wants to escape his life of crime, and we know he doesn’t want to get caught. That’s what’s propelling us forward. When he got caught, it’s like the balloon deflated. They get him to a place where he wants to kill Gene, but they never really commit to revenge as a throughline for the season. His motivation to put all his love into Sally fizzles out. Then he escapes, and his motivation is primarily protecting his son, but that didn’t really feel developed enough.

Somewhere along the way this season, I just sort of stopped caring about the characters. It didn’t help that everyone was so isolated from one another. Especially everything involving NoHo Hank. It made things feel very cold and impersonal.

what if sally and john are in cleveland and she's delivering flowers to barry's grave

Sadie?

Cleveland?

Yes Sadie Adler

crine i was just playing red dead @Lou but barry was from cleveland

Barry just should’ve left with his kid and left sally in that room

He’s buried in Arlington VA

im washed man

For sure one of my fav HBO shows, but I’m not quite sure I’d call that ending great or even good. Some great/interesting things def happened. Comparison is the thief of joy etc etc, but Succession finale (season as well) is an all-timer. This was just solid. This season felt special pre-time skip for me.

Barry’s (Gene too tbh) actual ending was pretty fitting tho. I almost feel like a lot of what they were trying to accomplish could’ve been done without the time skip. Like yeah we get to see that even with time, most of these characters remain miserable, but that was a given lol. Also, Barry’s kid didn’t really feel like a real person/character til literally the final episode.

The point about the kid is so true, that was a big problem

And maybe that was by design. “Kids should be seen not heard” type s***, but idk just felt a little rushed/sloppy in execution to me personally.

Great show that fizzled out. Season 4 was not that good.

Good final episode though. Gene being British was funny.

straight tunnel vision the whole season & they didn’t really do the job of making you feel the connection to his son, like who’s cares

this show for 3 seasons squeezes the absolute most out of like 35-ish min run times, it was insanely impressive what they did, but for the ambition of this season there needed to be more time, some more episode’s focused on individual characters besides Barry

hilarious, incredible ending

although lowkey wish they had just ended it when it cut to black after he got shot in the head

that ending was not it at all

@ShintaroKago how you liked the ending?

It sucks the last 5 mins of the show was that bs re-telling

jim moss storyline got rushed and f***ed. whole episode was a f***in mess.

like how the hell was he cool with barry just escaping.

gene son flipping on him was some bullshit. like come on

episode sucked man

lol yes you are. we all are