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  • Nov 14, 2021

    definitely in that top echelon

    too many legends to name one single goat tho

  • Nov 14, 2021

    Crazy how you linked this specific performance when Bruno washed her

  • Nov 14, 2021

    But yeah she’s an alltime GOAT

  • Nov 14, 2021

    especially because there’s so many different ways you can look at this

    dancing singers get most of the mainstream buzz as GOAT entertainers, but a dude like Jimi Hendrix who put on legendary performances with unparalleled skill at his instrument has to be in the discussion too

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    Boku

    Awesome lol

    He still not f***ing with Bey tho

    Imagine. James Brown and Prince easily better.

    My favourite Beyonce performance is Coachella, but even there, none of the best things about it have anything to do with her

    I feel like when people call her the GOAT entertainer it's just recency bias

  • She is certainly up there. Don't know why people trying so hard to argue against it.

  • Nov 14, 2021
    Dino

    Shoulda known still gotta check it out tho tbh

    I can’t believe this is how some of you genuinely form opinions on music this is insane

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    theDonandOnly

    Imagine. James Brown and Prince easily better.

    My favourite Beyonce performance is Coachella, but even there, none of the best things about it have anything to do with her

    I feel like when people call her the GOAT entertainer it's just recency bias

    Yeah it ain't recency bias. Been seeing and hearing about her solo performances since 2003. She does this s*** b. Just no denying it.

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    Smacked Voodoo

    Yeah it ain't recency bias. Been seeing and hearing about her solo performances since 2003. She does this s*** b. Just no denying it.

    in the bigger picture 03 is not that long ago. Also it's not like an Amy Winehouse thing where she stopped in 06 or whatever, she's still very active now. Which is obviously to her credit, but she's still a current artist

    So I think there is a lot of recency bias. It's been decades since the peaks of the other artists named it like Prince or James Brown or MJ, so it is still recent

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    theDonandOnly

    in the bigger picture 03 is not that long ago. Also it's not like an Amy Winehouse thing where she stopped in 06 or whatever, she's still very active now. Which is obviously to her credit, but she's still a current artist

    So I think there is a lot of recency bias. It's been decades since the peaks of the other artists named it like Prince or James Brown or MJ, so it is still recent

    You moving goal posts.

  • Nov 14, 2021
    DonutHole

    people hyping up Beyoncé's dancing must have forgot how critics panned her dancing skills during her routine with Hugh Jackman at the Oscar's

    Just ask any dancer if beyonce has skills and listen to what they say tbh

    U'll hear that she's good at performing a dance routine in her style which requires not much dancing skills

    Beyonce herself said in a documentary or interview she isn't a dancer and doesn't dance well at parties etc

    Likening her to MJ isn't only insulting to his legacy but also everyone's intelligence

    Lets appreciate the entertainment factor of beyonce without lying to ourselves and others please

    FKA Twigs lowkey more impressive when it comes to dance out of current artists. Only talking about incorporating dance in her music, nothing else

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    But her voice hasn’t declined yet despite her decades in the biz, she has full control over it and knows how and when to use it. She may not be able to hit whistle tones, but look what that did to Mariah.

    Tl:dr yeah she's a really good singer but she didn't become that until her vocal prime in her twenties
    My point is : that story is most likely false and is being put out there for branding purposes only

    when she was a teenager she wasn't singing like she was in her prime, her voice became brighter and clearer in the mid 2000s

    Her destiny child days u can see her shake alot whilst trying to sing which is a sign of lack of vocal control (normal for very young voices who have to grow into their mature voice; women voices usually become mature at around 25 and a good vocal prime can last up to 20/25 years: beyonce isn't at the age where her voice could be "declining" yet)

    So having a toddler do ridiculous exercercices is a waste of time

    Especially when those exercerices aren't helping them learn good vocal technique (running whilst singing isn't good vocal technique, why teach someone terrible habits they won't be able to maintain anyways due to how human bodies work)

    Nowadays her voice deepened, it's maturing even more and she is singing her old songs (crazy in love) in lower octaves
    just listen to how deep her voice is on the lion king soundtracks
    Her voice is changing, which is normal

    Her good singing has nothing to do with some crock of s*** story about running around singing when she was a toddler, her voice wouldn't get better doing that

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    Feel like even Prince himself has said that Beyonce has the potential to outshine even him in regards to entertainment/performance. And he said that back in like 2006 or 2007.
    And we got people on KTT tryna say otherwise...

  • I ain't even a Beyonce stan but y'all doing a lot rn

  • Nov 14, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    You moving goal posts.

    how? she's still a relevant, current artist, so more than recent she's current.

    If you're talking about performers from the last 5-6 decades of pop, then she is so much more recent. This generation can't even firsthand remember when MJ, Prince and James Brown were relevant

    so a bit of recency bias is natural

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    Smacked Voodoo

    Feel like even Prince himself has said that Beyonce has the potential to outshine even him in regards to entertainment/performance. And he said that back in like 2006 or 2007.
    And we got people on KTT tryna say otherwise...

    I remember that he said she needed to learn how to play piano à la Alicia keys in order to take it to another level

  • Nov 14, 2021

    Y’all mad corny disregarding Beyoncé. Idgaf if you like her music or not, Homecoming alone convinced me she’s in the conversation

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    DonutHole

    I remember that he said she needed to learn how to play piano à la Alicia keys in order to take it to another level

    So I guess it's looking like a wrap then

  • Nov 14, 2021

    Perhaps

  • Nov 14, 2021

    Michael Jackson is #1

    Prince is #2

    #3 is whoever you guys want after that.

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    J2422

    How is it goofy to put Bruno in the conversation next to Beyonce?

    They just hate to hate bro I don’t understand how you could watch this and not at LEAST put him in the conversation? Lmfao

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    Smacked Voodoo

    So I guess it's looking like a wrap then

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD38JT8rypY!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExWCRn6B8k

    À la Alicia keys is a little more than what she doing in those clips but I guess if we wanna be disingenuous and very literal, yeah wrap it up boys

    EDIT: I misquoted prince, he said "À la Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles" not Alicia keys my bad 💀💀💀💀

  • Nov 14, 2021

    Bruno really will not get his flowers til he’s gone it’s a shame

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    À la Alicia keys is a little more than what she doing in those clips but I guess if we wanna be disingenuous and very literal, yeah wrap it up boys

    EDIT: I misquoted prince, he said "À la Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles" not Alicia keys my bad 💀💀💀💀

    Those vids aren't impressive at all tbh

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    J2422

    Those vids aren't impressive at all tbh

    It's "I learned this from a youtube tutorial" level piano playing

    Anyone itt could learn it in under 1 hour

    I don't think that's what prince meant by knowing music but whatever I guess

    Beyonce is very talented, no doubting that but her marketing does alot of the work as well, that's my only point here
    People confuse that with saying she's not talented which is wrong