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  • Mar 21, 2024
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    OHMNI

    They learned tactics of how to corral protestors from the IDF ? Yes. While also learning how to provoke attacks then give a disproportionate response . Journalist in Chicago have reported on this. It primarily applies to protest or large gatherings

    Again I’ve directly experienced and seen this with my own eyes

    show me that chicago journalism about it please

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    mrcl_hrn

    im the only one here arguing in good faith and actually engaging with what the other side is saying instead of going for epic dunks

    yeah sure u are, like u weren’t writing off other posters and me on getting s*** from tik tok and twitter cause it went against ur beliefs u surely are in good faith

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    rvi

    idk how much we can really say for it before the recorded music era but I do know that since the dawn of recorded music when artists like Jimmie Rodgers and Vernon Dalhart had the first hits with "hillbilly music" it was the rural whites who were the audience

    just feels a lot different to me from a case like rock where the chucks, little richards, 40s r&b guys were the inventors making the first bonafide form and then the audience shifted after. with country even the people making and listening to it 10-20 years before the term invented were white

    saw a good a***ogy the other day about it being less of a reclamation and more like having their long overdue place at party where black people were wrongfully and intentionally excluded as soon as it started.

    That makes a lot more sense than people that are calling it THEFT in all caps lol.

    Super anecdotal but just thinking of how that one black lady Ken Burns interviewed for Country Music said her old mee-maw would f***ing snap if anybody tried to turn off her Hee-Haw made me realize it wasn't as uh black and white as it seemed.

  • Mar 21, 2024
    rvi

    do you think itd be heresy to recommend Rust Never Sleeps to a beginner to show peaks of both his folk and rock sides

    You know I would

  • Mar 21, 2024
    Choking

    yeah sure u are, like u weren’t writing off other posters and me on getting s*** from tik tok and twitter cause it went against ur beliefs u surely are in good faith

    i added lil comments like that but i responded to every tangible point im reading about the memphis thing rn i'm open to new info

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    OHMNI

    This s*** hard af she should use this for the Deluxe

  • Mar 21, 2024
    AvenueJones

    This s*** hard af she should use this for the Deluxe

    Would be funny as f***

  • Mar 21, 2024

    Damn 36 pages I’m out. F*** racism, but I’m not bumping this

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    xxxkiraxxx

    Real but

    thank you for giving me the final step of my transformation

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    OHMNI

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    OHMNI

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/us-cops-trained-use-lethal-israeli-tactics

    https://www.juf.org/news/israel.aspx?id=57594

    https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/

    Don’t quote me til you read

    so a group of high ranking chicago officers went to israel which i knew but your links dont say anything besides that. "the electric intifada" (lol) added some fanfiction on what the evil things they learned from the israeli police but none of those links actually defended anything you said.
    i just spent like 30 minutes reading about all this trying to see if i'm wrong and now i'm even more confident that i'm right and also tired of the subject so we can let it rest if u want

  • Mar 21, 2024
    rvi

    cant get down with that 1920s Ellington and Armstrong magic huh?

    idk maybe I could but I havent been as interested in the history compared to the other ancient genres

  • Mar 21, 2024

    Oh she bout to drop a blassic

  • Mar 21, 2024
    eclass

    what you expect when she sharing the stage w/ the DIXIE chicks

    That people wouldn’t be racist?

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    Elric

    That makes a lot more sense than people that are calling it THEFT in all caps lol.

    Super anecdotal but just thinking of how that one black lady Ken Burns interviewed for Country Music said her old mee-maw would f***ing snap if anybody tried to turn off her Hee-Haw made me realize it wasn't as uh black and white as it seemed.

    You just looking to shoot whitey bail at every turn because you were justifying why it was ok for the Beatles and Elvis too lol

  • Mar 21, 2024
    mrcl_hrn

    so a group of high ranking chicago officers went to israel which i knew but your links dont say anything besides that. "the electric intifada" (lol) added some fanfiction on what the evil things they learned from the israeli police but none of those links actually defended anything you said.
    i just spent like 30 minutes reading about all this trying to see if i'm wrong and now i'm even more confident that i'm right and also tired of the subject so we can let it rest if u want

    I live in Chicago and directly interviewed police and experienced it at protest. I don't care what you think to be honest I am just providing the info. Be blessed

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    paradise valley

    Interesting how there’s no discourse about Lana Del Rey or Post Malone doing country

    We equating Beyoncé to them ?

  • Mar 21, 2024
    HOV INNOCENT

    You just looking to shoot whitey bail at every turn because you were justifying why it was ok for the Beatles and Elvis too lol

    but I was cooking other white bands for ripping black artist without paying their dues maybe you right though

    its just that very few other people talk about this situation with as much nuance as you so im a little defensive I guess. used to have to defend Elvis on a regular basis before the fking movie came out.

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    paradise valley

    Interesting how there’s no discourse about Lana Del Rey or Post Malone doing country

    We s***ted on Post Malone for switching up on rap

    Lana has been slowly transitioning. Bey is abruptly going from dance to country. Unless I missed country covers she has done before.

    rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lana-del-rey-country-album-lasso-jack-antonoff-1234958785
    She has been testing the waters by performing country covers, including renditions of Tammy Wynette’s “Stand By Your Man” and John Denver’s “Take Me Home, Country Roads”

    Whole industry is abandoning the current meta and going country.

    "During the event, Del Rey took the stage to fete producer Jack Antonoff, who is her collaborator on the new album. “If you can’t already tell by our award winners and our performers, the music business is going country,” she told the crowd. “We’re going country. It’s happening. That’s why Jack has followed me to Muscle Shoals, Nashville, Mississippi, over the last four years.”

  • Mar 21, 2024
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    wow this thread is getting zero traction

    oh?

  • Mar 21, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    We s***ted on Post Malone for switching up on rap

    Lana has been slowly transitioning. Bey is abruptly going from dance to country. Unless I missed country covers she has done before.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lana-del-rey-country-album-lasso-jack-antonoff-1234958785/
    She has been testing the waters by performing country covers, including renditions of Tammy Wynette’s “Stand By Your Man” and John Denver’s “Take Me Home, Country Roads”

    Whole industry is abandoning the current meta and going country.

    "During the event, Del Rey took the stage to fete producer Jack Antonoff, who is her collaborator on the new album. “If you can’t already tell by our award winners and our performers, the music business is going country,” she told the crowd. “We’re going country. It’s happening. That’s why Jack has followed me to Muscle Shoals, Nashville, Mississippi, over the last four years.”

    So you didn’t hear Lemonade and the song Daddy Lessons? Bro you should check it out the film was dope

  • Mar 21, 2024
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    Ions man Beyonce back bleaching. She wanna be a white woman, same way Ye wanna be a white man

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    oh my god cleanse your soul PLEASE. this is a child who was hostage!!! (this was 100% beyonce's team trying to get an easy PR win cause helping CHILD HOSTAGES seemed like an easy slam dunk but they clearly mistook how f***ing psycho some of you are)

    Oh brother you most likely don‘t know s*** about the genocide and it‘s not your fault no problem I don’t expect everyone to be some type of activist (as long as they don’t start to participate in or are defending stupid s***) but stop talking braindead nonsense. If you wanna take a centrist or apolitical position then take it but stop white knighting Beyonce of all people man As I said I‘m not going all anti Beyonce mode but my point is - I understand if somebody chooses to do it.

    The Israeli propaganda relies heavily on the kidnappings in the media to use the situation as an excuse for genociding Palestinians (while intentionally ignoring that they did ethnically cleanse Palestinians through decades even before there even was a Hamas and their actions). When an artist is becoming the helping hand for Israeli hostages and ALSO AT THE SAME TIME not talking s*** about the thousands of Palestinian children who are getting killed then it IS a political stance & kind of taking a side even if it‘s "not intentionally" (lmao) . Her PR team ain‘t a central power for a f***ing billionaire - she approves this s***. Why are you only a helping hand of victims who are Israeli when Israel is responsible for the genocide in the first place (the Western powers have their hand in it to for allowing them to do this bs). If you are really humanitarian like Michael Jackson or "neutral/ playing both sides" you will not support abuse of children / killings of children period, you will either call out the genocide or do some centrist IG post like Rihanna or easy s*** for pure apolitical people who don‘t want instant problems - just take no action at all. You could invite and help victims of both sides let‘s say, ( for example out of your unknowing, ) if you really wanna be a humanitarian centrist. When it comes to politics - If you ain‘t bout it then you ain‘t bout it - simple. Criticism is fair especially if you‘re a highly influential public figure like Beyonce who brands himself as an activist here and there man.

    Now for some liberal brains an example - If you are cooperating with Russia economically for example and also giving free concerts to Russian children who are affected of the war BUT also keeping your mouth shut about Ukraine at the same time then you are taking a political stance period and most likely the side of Russia easy as that there‘s no "PR team mistakes" or "idk about the conflict" to talk you out of that. Keep the same energy please.

    Now also you should originally CLEANSE YOUR SOUL like I said it firstly bozo if you don‘t get why people are seeing an issue at all here. I‘m not saying u should stop enjoying Beyonces music I‘m not shaming you for being a Beyonce stan but you have to accept that criticism is FAIR. Like Ye stans - when people call him out for antisemitism. Fair game

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    let‘s see if she tops Renaissance

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