Newcastle

3mo

Everyone types in this type of tone and format hoping it goes viral

saint dot edumist

3mo

literally the worst modern philosophical position imaginable

Moonchaser

3mo

Next to being an edgy kid in your 20s

saint dot edumist

3mo

honestly i was half bored and just wanted to talk about God im not even gonna lie @op i apologize

and yeah that’s more or less what i mean by modern philosophical position, i don’t think people grasp how many Reddit tier atheists float around nowadays that are derived from the Four Horsemen (Richard Dawkins, Carl Sagan, Daniel Dennett, and whoever the other dude is)

they popularized a really inflammatory Hot Topic style of atheism and debate rhetoric that spits in the face of actual great atheist thinkers like Nietzsche or hell even the Buddha (arguably)—it’s commonly founded on a scientism-ic worldview that if something cannot be evaluated on an empirical and scientific (or physical, rather) standard, it’s essentially rendered useless or even outright non-existent, i can’t tell you how many times i run into this sort of mindset every other conversation i have with people (hell, even some religious folk sometimes)

it’s a really a load to get into tbh—i don’t have problems with atheism, it’s largely the b******ization that is everywhere now that gets under my skin

saint dot edumist

3mo

”I don’t really like this because it’s an ungrounded way of thinking imo. Ultimately everything is an assumption.”

well yeah, that’s a part of philosophy, this reminds me of a conversation i had in a similar thread so im gonna recycle it here

TL;DR: e’rrythang comes down to something that cannot be verified in itself or justified, you have to start w/ something

i think we’re getting into the weeds a bit here though, it’s fine to not care about philosophy and the semantic portion of it that you find “ultimately worthless”—the outline that im getting at for why i find commonplace amateur atheism to be awful is because they don’t even get core level epistemology and philosophical understanding correct in this aspect half the time so THATS why i have BEEF with them NIGGAS 🔫🗡️🗣️ as an (unfortunate) philosophy enjoyer

they co-opt science’s indisputable power to better our world and further our lives into a philosophical worldview (that they don’t even think is philosophical) where they dismiss any other worldview besides its own when science doesn’t even hang around those metaphysical (as in, beyond physics, beyond the spatial temporal realm) blocks lol (or even make those sorts of intentional value claims in the first place and the idea that it even does kind of directly negates the idea that it’s perceiver bias-less but so on and so forth)

Newcastle

3mo

Everyone types in this type of tone and format hoping it goes viral

Bo Ceephus

3mo

But you guys are actually queer

notbrock

3mo

The thing is scientific assumptions are built on things we can actually perceive. I assume I’m holding my phone in my hand right now because it’s something we as human beings can perceive

Assuming anything different has zero basis in the reality we live in and there’s basically no reason to assume anything else other than “what if…”

Which is just redundant because if your making assumptions on things we can’t perceive then you could say literally anything

Q3D

3mo

I mean using gay or retard as negative descriptors is pretty seof explanatory on the whole "why is it offensive" front lol

Lisa

3mo

But many times they’re actually used endearingly

For me at least. I don’t think either term is entirely negative and most would agree

Lisa

3mo

But many times they’re actually used endearingly

For me at least. I don’t think either term is entirely negative and most would agree

saint dot edumist

3mo

“it’s commonly founded on a scientism-ic worldview that if something cannot be evaluated on an empirical and scientific (or physical, rather) standard, it’s essentially rendered useless or even outright non-existent,”

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”The thing is scientific assumptions are built on things we can actually perceive.”

”Assuming anything different has zero basis in the reality we live in and there’s basically no reason to assume anything else other than “what if…””

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Knx

3mo

Troll better

saint dot edumist

3mo

”I don’t really like this because it’s an ungrounded way of thinking imo. Ultimately everything is an assumption.”

well yeah, that’s a part of philosophy, this reminds me of a conversation i had in a similar thread so im gonna recycle it here

TL;DR: e’rrythang comes down to something that cannot be verified in itself or justified, you have to start w/ something

i think we’re getting into the weeds a bit here though, it’s fine to not care about philosophy and the semantic portion of it that you find “ultimately worthless”—the outline that im getting at for why i find commonplace amateur atheism to be awful is because they don’t even get core level epistemology and philosophical understanding correct in this aspect half the time so THATS why i have BEEF with them NIGGAS 🔫🗡️🗣️ as an (unfortunate) philosophy enjoyer

they co-opt science’s indisputable power to better our world and further our lives into a philosophical worldview (that they don’t even think is philosophical) where they dismiss any other worldview besides its own when science doesn’t even hang around those metaphysical (as in, beyond physics, beyond the spatial temporal realm) blocks lol (or even make those sorts of intentional value claims in the first place and the idea that it even does kind of directly negates the idea that it’s perceiver bias-less but so on and so forth)

CrimsonArk

3mo

That’s Juniper dude.

She literally coined the term “Goblin Mode” which was Oxford’s word of the year back in 2022.

She’s been viral.

ImAUsernameLike

3mo

lol i didn’t wanna get roasted by people who don’t use social media other than ktt2 for knowing twitter micro-celebs but yea, juniper’s BEEN someone to know

saint dot edumist

3mo

”I don’t really like this because it’s an ungrounded way of thinking imo. Ultimately everything is an assumption.”

well yeah, that’s a part of philosophy, this reminds me of a conversation i had in a similar thread so im gonna recycle it here

TL;DR: e’rrythang comes down to something that cannot be verified in itself or justified, you have to start w/ something

i think we’re getting into the weeds a bit here though, it’s fine to not care about philosophy and the semantic portion of it that you find “ultimately worthless”—the outline that im getting at for why i find commonplace amateur atheism to be awful is because they don’t even get core level epistemology and philosophical understanding correct in this aspect half the time so THATS why i have BEEF with them NIGGAS 🔫🗡️🗣️ as an (unfortunate) philosophy enjoyer

they co-opt science’s indisputable power to better our world and further our lives into a philosophical worldview (that they don’t even think is philosophical) where they dismiss any other worldview besides its own when science doesn’t even hang around those metaphysical (as in, beyond physics, beyond the spatial temporal realm) blocks lol (or even make those sorts of intentional value claims in the first place and the idea that it even does kind of directly negates the idea that it’s perceiver bias-less but so on and so forth)