@feds lock this man right here
they show p*** at the donation centers, but im legally blind so i just listen as i commit the most noble deed for mankind.
@plannedparenthood back me up on this fam
I know a lot of people talk about the influence of p*** on sexual behavior itself but I've always thought that was a kind of secondary issue. Like for sure imprinting sexual behavior isn't great by any means, but I think a much bigger issue is the literal behavior p*** causes in interpersonal relationships, something which is severely understudied. Like similar to any other vices, there's a level under which it causes imperfections, but these are somewhat ignorable, but we're not talking about a 30 year old watching 1 p*** video a day the same as drinking 1 can of beer a day, we're talking about pre-pubescent children with repetitive and infinite access to any and all p*** on a regular basis. I don't think it's very hard to draw the conclusions on how this affects the way people then view people of the other sex, or treat relationships, or abstractly place interpersonal incentives or signals.
yeah, i alluded to that in my longer post on page 10, about how the entire zoomer approach to interpersonal relationships and to the entire social sphere really is inherently affected by p***
it's understudied as you say because it's hard (for me anyway) to put into words precisely how i think it does affect these things in practice, but there certainly is an aspect of dehumanization to it, not only of others but of oneself
to repeat and paraphrase myself, to the person whose conceptual universe is p***ographized, the real is fake and the fake is real and neither are realer than they are fake
those of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
They can’t get any play
for one example, i think that, as flaphead and billie eilish said -- and ive also been with girls who i suspect have this mentality -- that it induces people to perform more elaborate, potentially risky, and not actually enjoyable sexual acts because p***ography has presented it as not only normal but desirable
pretty much every girl my age that I've talked to about it likes to be choked, or at least represents that she does. from conversations with older heads, this was not common at all until very recently.
other things like a*** or eating ass are also much more common than they were in previous generations
i remember my first GF was eager for us to try a*** on her birthday, then right before we did it, she was like "wait, why are we doing this when only you will get pleasure from it"
and i was like "i don't even want to do this, it was your idea!"
now, i don't think these acts are necessarily inherently bad. but i think they have been proliferated as normal far past where the kind of person who would normally find that actually enjoyable -- a particular kind of risk-taking, adventurous personality -- are the only ones being induced to do it
I hear you. and I definitely think it’s an interesting topic and deserves a lot of real consideration but i’ve yet to hear anyone properly explain how younger generations are more damaged or experiencing s***worse than older generations bc of p***.
trying a***, eating ass, getting slapped/choked just don’t register to me as problematic behaviors or particularly new ones.
and girls/young women not enjoying sex, being coerced into acts they don’t enjoy is as old as time. p*** didn’t invent that. in fact i’m pretty sure there’s a strong argument on the other side for p*** as an educational tool for what can be pleasurable about s***whereas before information was limited and s***was viewed as primarily an activity for men’s enjoyment exclusively.
they show p*** at the donation centers, but im legally blind so i just listen as i commit the most noble deed for mankind.
@plannedparenthood back me up on this fam
You're listening to p*** like it was a podcast and you're snitching
Who are you ?
she missed Sara Jay's entire peak. don't think Billie Eilish is qualified to talk about p***
They need to make it so that only people 18+ can access p*** sites and start advertising the negative effects of it more
I hear you. and I definitely think it’s an interesting topic and deserves a lot of real consideration but i’ve yet to hear anyone properly explain how younger generations are more damaged or experiencing s***worse than older generations bc of p***.
trying a***, eating ass, getting slapped/choked just don’t register to me as problematic behaviors or particularly new ones.
and girls/young women not enjoying sex, being coerced into acts they don’t enjoy is as old as time. p*** didn’t invent that. in fact i’m pretty sure there’s a strong argument on the other side for p*** as an educational tool for what can be pleasurable about s***whereas before information was limited and s***was viewed as primarily an activity for men’s enjoyment exclusively.
You're right about a lot of what you say but the parts about the past and sexualization aren't really true. The issue is that we largely view history through the lens of art, text, and media, and surviving highly publicized examples creates biases of behavior from said time; imagine in 100 years if the only surviving media which discussed sex/relationships from now was WAP and how extremely different that would make you view modern sexuality vs if the only surviving media from now was Marvin's Room. The issue with p*** isn't really inherent to the acts of p*** or even the conceptual idea of p*** - it's more the time and length of exposure. Like we've said before, the issue isn't even like late high schoolers getting access to it. It's that most p*** exposure is incredibly young, and with the inception of only more technological reliance for youth, is getting younger and younger. The idea that you could even be in a situation to be exposed to p*** <10 is absurd when you consider that in the early 2000s, "young exposure to p***" would probabyl be like 13-16 and even then that would be considered weird - like for example this behavior was so "odd" it was the subject of comedy and satire, hence why there are so many "teen s***dramas" or whatever making fun of it. But then to go to the media point, we've remembered these as not being satirical but rather as pinpoint reflections of culture, so we think this stuff has always been normalized. One of the big issues with addictive p*** usage is its toll on relationships and relationship incentives rather than on s***itself. Whether or not people want to argue about the morality of certain s***acts is one thing, but one thing i think virtually everyone can agree on is that it's not okay that addictive p*** usage dehumanizes relationships and individual meaning
she was late as hell then. stumbled upon my first dbz x sailor moon p***o site when I was like 6
I personally never understood the damaging effects of it on grown folks unless your legitimately addicted which I mean no addiction is healthy
I don’t think kids should be able to access it so easily tho so I can see a 11 yr old girl being affected by it
I know a lot of people talk about the influence of p*** on sexual behavior itself but I've always thought that was a kind of secondary issue. Like for sure imprinting sexual behavior isn't great by any means, but I think a much bigger issue is the literal behavior p*** causes in interpersonal relationships, something which is severely understudied. Like similar to any other vices, there's a level under which it causes imperfections, but these are somewhat ignorable, but we're not talking about a 30 year old watching 1 p*** video a day the same as drinking 1 can of beer a day, we're talking about pre-pubescent children with repetitive and infinite access to any and all p*** on a regular basis. I don't think it's very hard to draw the conclusions on how this affects the way people then view people of the other sex, or treat relationships, or abstractly place interpersonal incentives or signals.
you’re on thé money with this one krishna
you’re on thé money with this one krishna
i think a lot of it is really underdiscussed behaviorally. a lot of people satirize or make fun of the weird grossly sexually obsessed behaviors of teenage boys and chalk it to puberty. you know how there's stories of lots of kids (or at leas was a few years ago) being like "yeah i always shaved and put on extra cologne before i hung out at the mall with friends just in case i saw someone and had some quick sex"?
The obvious reason why teenage boys think that s*** is because of their perception of reality shaped from p***. I can tell for sure no one's grandfather went to the matinee and was like "let me put on my extra cologne in case some b**** wants to give me a b****** by chance during the cinema" . The fact that the mall s*** for example is so widespread on an almost word for word basis across so many young boys who had the exact same idea and perception of social signals is an exact example of why this stuff is so dangerous. Being on a date and being the whole time like "okay is this the point where the s***comes then" thinking there's some fixed social flow of which s***fits in rather than viewing reality through their own interactions and individual nuances is a great example of how this stuff is so toxic in worldview building
those of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
Do you not see how h**** half this site gets over charli XCX gifs?
The degeneracy that p*** creates isn't healthy. Some of my fetishes come from some of the s*** I've seen and I know I would never attempt irl.
Talked to my therapist about it and there's a line you have to create in what's your reality and what's fantasy.
Just 100 years ago, not even the greatest scholars in history could have imagined the infinite access to information we currently literally have in our hands, & wat we do with that s***?
P***
literally almost unlimited amount of information accessible. And niggas on ktt2 s***posting
You're right about a lot of what you say but the parts about the past and sexualization aren't really true. The issue is that we largely view history through the lens of art, text, and media, and surviving highly publicized examples creates biases of behavior from said time; imagine in 100 years if the only surviving media which discussed sex/relationships from now was WAP and how extremely different that would make you view modern sexuality vs if the only surviving media from now was Marvin's Room. The issue with p*** isn't really inherent to the acts of p*** or even the conceptual idea of p*** - it's more the time and length of exposure. Like we've said before, the issue isn't even like late high schoolers getting access to it. It's that most p*** exposure is incredibly young, and with the inception of only more technological reliance for youth, is getting younger and younger. The idea that you could even be in a situation to be exposed to p*** <10 is absurd when you consider that in the early 2000s, "young exposure to p***" would probabyl be like 13-16 and even then that would be considered weird - like for example this behavior was so "odd" it was the subject of comedy and satire, hence why there are so many "teen s***dramas" or whatever making fun of it. But then to go to the media point, we've remembered these as not being satirical but rather as pinpoint reflections of culture, so we think this stuff has always been normalized. One of the big issues with addictive p*** usage is its toll on relationships and relationship incentives rather than on s***itself. Whether or not people want to argue about the morality of certain s***acts is one thing, but one thing i think virtually everyone can agree on is that it's not okay that addictive p*** usage dehumanizes relationships and individual meaning
my first problem with what you’re saying is that you’re talking about it like it’s ancient history. we have parents and even just older siblings who weren’t raised with regular access to internet p***. there are ppl on this site chatting about Lil Uzi Vert who are old enough to not have had Billie’s experience.
my second problem is that you’re listing generational DIFFERENCES and assuming they’re PROBLEMS. why?
psychology is a science. you can’t just say being exposed to p*** <10y/o is inherently bad. you have to prove it by accounting for damaging behaviors and then you have to compare it to people who didn’t have the same access and prove an actual increase in those behaviors.
we naturally sense that it’s worse but that’s one of the oldest mistakes of human nature: assuming things are worse just bc they’re different.
have there been more rapes than pre-internet p*** era? more forceful incest? less reported happiness in interpersonal relationships? fewer children born (that can’t be explained by other phenomena)? more reported instances of impotence?
these are real provable data points. not just saying something is ‘absurd’ bc that’s how you and others feel instinctually.
I mean, if we’re just going to talk anecdotally… priests were able to f*** boys in the ass (pre-internet p*** era, and probably, ironically, while bashing the p*** industry) bc they divorced the act from sex. do you think they would’ve been able to separate that act from s***if those boys had been exposed to p***?
Do you not see how h**** half this site gets over charli XCX gifs?
The degeneracy that p*** creates isn't healthy. Some of my fetishes come from some of the s*** I've seen and I know I would never attempt irl.
Talked to my therapist about it and there's a line you have to create in what's your reality and what's fantasy.
young boys used to get h**** to the land o lakes indian on the butter packaging.
while your experience is your experience, you can’t really draw any full scale societal conclusions from it.
p*** didn’t create fetishes. I know this may be hard to fathom but it’s not provable that you wouldn’t have developed your fetishes without p***. you may just have a predisposition to some form of sexual deviancy, just like many many other people, the majority of whom grew up in a pre-internet p*** world.