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  • Aug 14, 2022
    SHAQUILLE

    What’s more effective than the actual women giving their take?

    These kind of people are actually hurting our cause

    Grand standing, Virtue Signaling f***ing losers who are too scared to actually talk about the subject itself. They are not meaningful allys

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    SHAQUILLE

    What’s more effective than the actual women giving their take?

    ??? post a nuanced survey like you literally did just a couple of pages ago backing up your argument

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    rustcohlestan

    ??? post a nuanced survey like you literally did just a couple of pages ago backing up your argument

    that probably could have happened on like page 3 if the fnf s*** didnt happen

    i dont blame op for not starting a thread with a bunch of surveys etc

    i think a video clip and then asking what other people think is fine enough for a thread on this website. if we want higher standards for thread creation then we need to collectively push for that and it isn't happening

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    the only person who regularly posts in life sxn that i would actually expect to have stats in their op of any topic is scratchin

  • Aug 14, 2022
    blonded

    that probably could have happened on like page 3 if the fnf s*** didnt happen

    i dont blame op for not starting a thread with a bunch of surveys etc

    i think a video clip and then asking what other people think is fine enough for a thread on this website. if we want higher standards for thread creation then we need to collectively push for that and it isn't happening

    They wanna gatekeep how bisexual men talk about their discrimination

  • Aug 14, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    Fetishization. Most bi women (with brains) hate that lol.

    That’s the exact word I was looking for. Yeah in my time being around bi women who I’ve been able to be cool with, they haven’t found that s*** flattering at all

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    blonded

    to my knowledge i've never been involved with a woman who labeled themselves confidently as bisexual, just "curious" at most

    the weirdest things i got was being questioned out of the blue about what things i've done with a guy

    i think if you can get into a relationship as a bi dude you're fine but it's the barrier to entry that's the problem. ik that didn't answer your question at all

    is that out of choice or just the women you tend to gravitate towards?

    that's a crazy question to ask unprompted, and depending on the way it's asked it could definitely be a little biphobic

    Getting in a relationship as a bi man I assumed would be easier with a bi woman than a straight one, just bc bi women I'm friends with / I've dated say they feel more comfortable with men who give off 'bi vibes' (like me) or who are queer rather than with straight men. But @OP & others itt have said differently which surprises me

    It didn't answer it directly, but still your perspective is way more valuable than mine on this

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    blonded

    and even if what they're saying is true and you were an fnf stan, having a bunch of people just scream in your thread that they're dogshit isn't actually doing anything. it wouldn't convince you that they're bad, it wouldn't convince anyone following the thread they're bad, it's just patting yourself on the back

    engage with the points and show people how they're bad in a different thread otherwise you're just yelling into the void. here's an observation: redpilled dudes and rightwingers are drawn to those ideologies because they're feeling targeted and pushed out by society. are they actually? 90% of the time no, but just dismissing them instantly as "evil" isn't helping your cause.

    of course if you don't care about changing people's minds then nothing I said matters

    i literally gave them a surface level critique on the first page... and what you fail to account for is half the people that are entrenched in this sort of content do not want an actual conversation as to why they're bad

    they either sealion or obfuscate, i could go on and write out a thorough thesis why red pill content creators are idiots, and we will get people that say s*** such as "well i take what i like and leave the rest" or "you're a blue pilled beta" you can literally check out the Tate thread where i was attempting to do this

  • Aug 14, 2022
    rustcohlestan

    ??? post a nuanced survey like you literally did just a couple of pages ago backing up your argument

    he didnt even have to do all that, i literally found a bunch of articles acknowledging this same exact topic with a basic half assed Google

  • Aug 14, 2022
    nightingalexo

    is that out of choice or just the women you tend to gravitate towards?

    that's a crazy question to ask unprompted, and depending on the way it's asked it could definitely be a little biphobic

    Getting in a relationship as a bi man I assumed would be easier with a bi woman than a straight one, just bc bi women I'm friends with / I've dated say they feel more comfortable with men who give off 'bi vibes' (like me) or who are queer rather than with straight men. But @OP & others itt have said differently which surprises me

    It didn't answer it directly, but still your perspective is way more valuable than mine on this

    i think it's just by circumstance(although i've only lived in super conservative areas) i don't think i'd have a preference over a straight or bi woman based off of my experiences, but if i was forced to choose i'd say a bi woman because i would hope they would be more open

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    cold mountain

    i literally gave them a surface level critique on the first page... and what you fail to account for is half the people that are entrenched in this sort of content do not want an actual conversation as to why they're bad

    they either sealion or obfuscate, i could go on and write out a thorough thesis why red pill content creators are idiots, and we will get people that say s*** such as "well i take what i like and leave the rest" or "you're a blue pilled beta" you can literally check out the Tate thread where i was attempting to do this

    the only critique i saw you give on the first page is calling manosphere creators psuedointellectuals then calling op a dirtball cuck

    might be part of the reason nobody wants to change their views imo

  • Aug 14, 2022
    nightingalexo

    is that out of choice or just the women you tend to gravitate towards?

    that's a crazy question to ask unprompted, and depending on the way it's asked it could definitely be a little biphobic

    Getting in a relationship as a bi man I assumed would be easier with a bi woman than a straight one, just bc bi women I'm friends with / I've dated say they feel more comfortable with men who give off 'bi vibes' (like me) or who are queer rather than with straight men. But @OP & others itt have said differently which surprises me

    It didn't answer it directly, but still your perspective is way more valuable than mine on this

    I would still say bi women are the most likely to be accepting of bi men in terms of dating

    Straight women have been okay with me being bi but it’s not as common as some would think

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    blonded

    the only critique i saw you give on the first page is calling manosphere creators psuedointellectuals then calling op a dirtball cuck

    might be part of the reason nobody wants to change their views imo

    yeah hence surface level critique... am i really expected to hand out a thesis to pseudo-intellectuals that binge this content and are brainwashed?

    and yeah, because op blocks everyone who's taking him up on his s***, no different how these red pill niggas don't debate anyone unless it's in the comfort of their echo chamber

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    blonded

    the only critique i saw you give on the first page is calling manosphere creators psuedointellectuals then calling op a dirtball cuck

    might be part of the reason nobody wants to change their views imo

    The hilarious thing is he’s trying to gatekeep how i talk about my discrimination. Calling me a dirtball cuck. How clueless can he be

  • Aug 14, 2022
    cold mountain

    yeah hence surface level critique... am i really expected to hand out a thesis to pseudo-intellectuals that binge this content and are brainwashed?

    and yeah, because op blocks everyone who's taking him up on his s***, no different how these red pill niggas don't debate anyone unless it's in the comfort of their echo chamber

    we have wildly different definitions of "surface-level critique" then

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    how u gonna blame someone for not having sexual attraction? as if its a choice

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    oat milk

    how u gonna blame someone for not having sexual attraction? as if its a choice

    if drake came out as bisexual these women would still be attracted to him. it isn't a sexual/physical thing, it's just veiled/not so thinly veiled homophobia

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    blonded

    if drake came out as bisexual these women would still be attracted to him. it isn't a sexual/physical thing, it's just veiled/not so thinly veiled homophobia

    lol how can you just make that assumption

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    oat milk

    lol how can you just make that assumption

    can you tell me the physical differences inherent to a straight and bisexual man

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    blonded

    can you tell me the physical differences inherent to a straight and bisexual man

    sexual attraction is something granted to you.

    its not logical. scrutinizing someone over this is weird bro

  • Aug 14, 2022
    blonded

    if drake came out as bisexual these women would still be attracted to him. it isn't a sexual/physical thing, it's just veiled/not so thinly veiled homophobia

    Drake being rich has a lot to do with that

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    blonded

    can you tell me the physical differences inherent to a straight and bisexual man

    also sexual attraction for women is in a large aspect very much psychological. if the idea of it turns them off, then it turns them off.

    there is no personal agency. its there or it isnt

    how tf u gonna get mad at someone for something they didn't do lol

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    oat milk

    also sexual attraction for women is in a large aspect very much psychological. if the idea of it turns them off, then it turns them off.

    there is no personal agency. its there or it isnt

    how tf u gonna get mad at someone for something they didn't do lol

    alright now tell me why a man being bisexual makes them not attractive if the woman was attracted to them before knowing they were bisexual

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    blonded

    alright now tell me why a man being bisexual makes them not attractive if the woman was attracted to them before knowing they were bisexual

    its not logical. it just is

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    blonded

    alright now tell me why a man being bisexual makes them not attractive if the woman was attracted to them before knowing they were bisexual

    get mad at nature man idk why this argument exists

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