It's not my personal view . I think all women are beautiful

But I also think it's ok if other people have their preferences

I see what you are saying here. Something still feels kinda off about “preferences” regarding race tho

lots of these dudes get their heartbroken by women or have some form of a terrible experience with women in their own lives, and instead of moving on and getting over it, they turn all of that negative energy and bitterness into an ideology known as the red pill that is based on pseudo-scientific principles

they attempt to group and stratify all women based on things like evolutionary psychology (because ya know, women are a slave to their cavemen instincts and men aren't because they're super strong willed and superior) which allows them to develop certain methods and pick up tactics that should work for anyone that adopts this ideology since apparently all women are the same this is where the core grifting lies

classical principles among the red pill to attract the most women is being a super manly man because that's what women are supposed to be attracted to according to the science that they'll cite, however, this is obviously massively different from reality because you see women with men that do not fit the Chad cardboard cutout quite literally all the time

the ideology is also very fraught with the is ought fallacy, which is why a ton of them will also spread nonsense like women are supposed to be submissive and obedient because that's how it was in the hunter-gathering era etc. this fits perfectly with conservatives views on gender roles and co, which is why there is a very prominent and obvious red pill to alt right pipeline or vice versa

i went down this rabbit hole when i was a junior-senior in HS and ive even seen some of my friends watch this type of content and espouse it too, thinking that they found a key to their relationship troubles and co, these types of content creators prey on hurt men, people that lack father figures and susceptible + pliable minds, which is why i don't have any tolerance for it whatsoever

apologies for the paragraphs, but yeah, that's a very rough synopsis of it

it's just a lot of hurt and disenfranchised men coping through misogyny and delusional fantasies about exemplifying the perfect man ideal (or alpha) and lots of these people aren't very happy because it is something the average person cannot live up to

the existence of something like this and why it's even being taking seriously in the first place is yet another product of Western scientism and the antitheistic zeitgeist that is very fashionable today, but that's an entirely different topic that i don't even wanna bother getting into

Yeah I get you. It sounds weird but if it's what people like or not like and it's not based on hate I tolerate it.

I am absolutely against black men discriminating others for dating light skin or white people discriminating dating black people

Just because I seen it here

If youre prefering dating homo/ heterosexual people over bi then yes that is biphobic.

Theres no buts and ifs imo

Real I think people inherently have a emotional understanding about preferences regarding race but not a logical one. So that conflicts within ourselves about whether that’s right or wrong.

Yeah exactly, probably because we see so much of the negatives and also always just think of the negative side ie. I don't date X race

But what about " I really like Asians " or " I really am into black people" that's the other side

Ah okay true but i meant more so sexually attracted

I like white women and men but i sometimes joke with my friends when scrolling through tinder “too yt” “white af, nope” but i like a lot of them. But there are sorta inherent preferences opposite of that within me still

That's just how it is, we all grew up around certain figures and end up getting attracted to those around us.

just reiterating the same points.

Lol I'm happy we reached a point of agreement

yeah there's actually a lot of room for interpretation and nuance in the question so i understand

"I think I prefer someone who is exclusively homosexual over someone who is bisexual because they act more gay are more involved in queer culture, they’re more likely to be out and don’t live some double life. I think I’m part of the problem on the other side of the spectrum but that’s my preference."

Let me run this by you and the rest of chat since emu doesn't seem to get it:

Women do not become any more or less s***ty because of a f***ing label. The chaser dynamic is very real, however. Most bi men can keenly recall women that tried to come on to them under the pretense of "being easy" only to undermine their sexuality and even their character the way biphobic men often do when we come out towards them. And similar situations happen when gender politics comes into play and individuals start breaking long held stereotypes and asking weird ass questions on both ends of the spectrum.

The reason emu likely feels comfortable around exclusively gay men probably has more to do with her personally not wanting to be challenged in her relationship dynamics at all. It's fine if she wants to seek the kind of kinship she does, but when it starts to get towards language like "Exclusively gay men act more gay" and "they don't live some double life" it's abundantly clear to me you just don't like bi men that you cant mold in your TERF-lite heteronormative image.

Aside from that, I tend to stick to my own.

Hmm didn’t realize emu was a woman.

Why do you think women would think bi men would be easy? 🤔

I actually just "fucked" a bisexual man "over" on my bed

hot

Bisexual men are unfortunately seen as indecisive or having some kind of phase: I remember one girl in particular telling me she wanted me to cheat with her cause it'd be "cool to f*** a gay guy." It also tends to mean that people take the least charitable opinion when it comes to our s***lives; an unfortunate product of both misogyny and homophobia alike is that both parties are seen as promiscuous yet because bisexual men have both options, we're seen as s***s for essentially having our cake and eating it too on top of the derision we get as gay men for breaking heteronormative roles more generally.

So bisexual men get fetishized basically

Cause niggas is losers

Either that or people assume they're lying in some way ( either they're just fully gay in denial vs. they don't care and will f*** anything that moves)

what makes you think any "steps" after the initial wouldn't be just as given to you?

the generator of the initial "step" is the same generator as every other step. you keep insinuating that some specific amount of logic or deconditioning would bypass this,

do you have anything to substantiate the lingering homophobia theory other than assumptions?

literally the video in the op