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  • Sep 18, 2021
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    Bestowed

    You're throwing the baby out with the bath water. On the second link provided here it is again, we can hear the pronunciation of the word Gullah.

    For a song ie Qum By Yah to be exact Hebrew words and translate from Gullah to English the same meanings as the Hebrew counter part is something not to take lightly.

    The point of the initial post is to identify fragments of a broken language, people and culture. If Qum By Yah doesn't have Hebrew similarities if not roots, what other language within Africa phrases Qum By Yah as Come By Here My Lord?

    Refute the case with an actual response, not because you disagree with the information presented. The same thing you're stating some Israelites do of "drawing conclusions" the same action is taking place on the opposing end. It's 'deny deny deny' without showcasing any counter evidence that the research is false.

    "גְּאֻלָּה, "gᵊ'ullâ", pronounced "gheh-ool-law", does not sound the same as "ˈɡələ" (gullah), nor do they share the same meaning, or originate from a directly linked cultural/historical context. "gullah"'s meaning coming from "a shortening of Angola, or from Gola, the name of an agricultural people of Liberia and Sierra Leone." is FAR more plausible and historically/lingustically relevant/traceable than it's proposed roots in this גְּאֻלָּה word that originated miles & miles away from the the sites of the transatlantic slave trade.

    בּוֹא "bo" the hebrew word for "to come by", or simply "come" does not sound like "kum", the gullah word for "come", or "ba" the gullah word for "by"

    פֹה "poh/po" the hebrew word for "here" does not sound like "yah", the gullah word for "here"

    bo poh (or however biblical hebrew sentence structure works, sure im butchering it here) doesn't sound like kum ba yah in the slightest.

    the following is why there are a lot of similarities between niger-congo, bantu, and proto semitic (in this case, hebrew) roots, and this language diffusion happened 11-12 thousand years ago, long before the advent of the biblical patriarchs who birthed the israelites & their descendants, who hebrew israelite identity doctrine proponents claim to descend from:

    "Martin Bernal in his book, Black Athena, sees the spread of the Afro-Asiatic language as the expansion of a culture which was long established in the East African Rift Valley at the end of the last ice age in the 10th and 9th millennia BC. During the last ice ages water was locked up in the polar icecaps and rainfall was considerably less than it is today. The Sahara and Arabian Deserts were even larger. During the increase of heat and rainfall in the centuries that followed, much of these regions became savannah, into which neighbouring peoples flocked. The most successful of these were speakers of Proto-Afro-Asiatic language from the African rift valley. Going through the savannah, the Chadic speakers reached Lake Chad while the Berbers, the Maghreb and the Proto Egyptians arrived in Upper Egypt. However Martin Bernal did not consider speakers of Proto-Bantu in his a***ysis.It is the author’s contention, from the linguistic contents, that speakers of Proto-Bantu played an active part at the time of the expansion of Proto Afro-Asiatic speakers in the Rift Valley of East Africa. These Proto-Bantu speakers going through the savannah formed part of the migration to Egypt. The Bantu languages together with other indigenous languages fused together and became embedded to form the Proto-Egyptian language. It is for this reason that the Ancient Egyptian language contains a substantial amount of Proto-Bantu or Bantu roots. However Guthrie speculated that before the Proto-Bantu expansion from Zaire, there had been several pre-Bantu stages, at which time the Bantu ancestors lived far to the north around Lake Chad. One group from this area made its way to Zaire and became the Proto-Bantu. The Proto-Bantu speakers and Proto-Afro-Asiatic speakers lived along side each other. They traded together, shared and exchanged common vocabularies of words" kaa-umati.co.uk/pdfs/ANCIENT%20EGYPTIAN%20AND%20BANTU.pdf
    jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2019/08/bantu-about-5000-years-ago-they-started.html?m=1

  • Sep 21, 2021
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    @localblaccmane @insertcoolnamehere @BigDckBandit @Bestowed
    thoughts on this my brothers

    I'll chime in and say no

    Not in today's society

    We have to many people conforming to "the norm" and whiteness is largely apart of what is considered the norm

    If you're with a non black partner - I'm not believing that black issues are your priority, you can contribute but I wouldn't call you problack without a black family/spouse

    I can't name a pro-black person today with a non-black family tbh

    Acknowledging that you're black and that racism exists isn't being pro-black that's the bare minimum imo

    We need to define what pro-black is and go from there tbh
    (I'm still convinced having a non-black household automatically disqualifies a person from that label)

    The fact we are even having this convo shows to me that we are too confortable with the way things are - being confortable doesn't win wars (ideological wars in this case)

  • Sep 21, 2021

    I came in here after seeing how Haitians are being treated at the border

    I wish we could do something about that

    F*** ICE btw

  • Sep 21, 2021
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    "גְּאֻלָּה, "gᵊ'ullâ", pronounced "gheh-ool-law", does not sound the same as "ˈɡələ" (gullah), nor do they share the same meaning, or originate from a directly linked cultural/historical context. "gullah"'s meaning coming from "a shortening of Angola, or from Gola, the name of an agricultural people of Liberia and Sierra Leone." is FAR more plausible and historically/lingustically relevant/traceable than it's proposed roots in this גְּאֻלָּה word that originated miles & miles away from the the sites of the transatlantic slave trade.

    בּוֹא "bo" the hebrew word for "to come by", or simply "come" does not sound like "kum", the gullah word for "come", or "ba" the gullah word for "by"

    פֹה "poh/po" the hebrew word for "here" does not sound like "yah", the gullah word for "here"

    bo poh (or however biblical hebrew sentence structure works, sure im butchering it here) doesn't sound like kum ba yah in the slightest.

    the following is why there are a lot of similarities between niger-congo, bantu, and proto semitic (in this case, hebrew) roots, and this language diffusion happened 11-12 thousand years ago, long before the advent of the biblical patriarchs who birthed the israelites & their descendants, who hebrew israelite identity doctrine proponents claim to descend from:

    "Martin Bernal in his book, Black Athena, sees the spread of the Afro-Asiatic language as the expansion of a culture which was long established in the East African Rift Valley at the end of the last ice age in the 10th and 9th millennia BC. During the last ice ages water was locked up in the polar icecaps and rainfall was considerably less than it is today. The Sahara and Arabian Deserts were even larger. During the increase of heat and rainfall in the centuries that followed, much of these regions became savannah, into which neighbouring peoples flocked. The most successful of these were speakers of Proto-Afro-Asiatic language from the African rift valley. Going through the savannah, the Chadic speakers reached Lake Chad while the Berbers, the Maghreb and the Proto Egyptians arrived in Upper Egypt. However Martin Bernal did not consider speakers of Proto-Bantu in his a***ysis.It is the author’s contention, from the linguistic contents, that speakers of Proto-Bantu played an active part at the time of the expansion of Proto Afro-Asiatic speakers in the Rift Valley of East Africa. These Proto-Bantu speakers going through the savannah formed part of the migration to Egypt. The Bantu languages together with other indigenous languages fused together and became embedded to form the Proto-Egyptian language. It is for this reason that the Ancient Egyptian language contains a substantial amount of Proto-Bantu or Bantu roots. However Guthrie speculated that before the Proto-Bantu expansion from Zaire, there had been several pre-Bantu stages, at which time the Bantu ancestors lived far to the north around Lake Chad. One group from this area made its way to Zaire and became the Proto-Bantu. The Proto-Bantu speakers and Proto-Afro-Asiatic speakers lived along side each other. They traded together, shared and exchanged common vocabularies of words" http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/pdfs/ANCIENT%20EGYPTIAN%20AND%20BANTU.pdf
    http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2019/08/bantu-about-5000-years-ago-they-started.html?m=1

    Here's another Hebrew word and it's spelled exactly as Gullah.

    Source 1 Source 2

    Kum Ba Yah

    Kum = H6965

    Ba = H872

    Bo as you stated could be the possible word as well. Ba originates from Bo.

    Yah = H3050

    Once I come across the information again I'll share but we as black Americans do have Y DNA that takes us back to the Levant.

  • Sep 21, 2021
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    :​

  • Wip

    :​

    Beautiful black couple, salute to you and yours my g

  • Sep 25, 2021
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    On another note, I’m getting real sick of some of these niggas out here with defeatist mindset about everything

    I was on Xbox with my boy last night and this nigga do nothing but make excuses

    Why so many brothers don’t believe in themselves

  • Sep 25, 2021
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    RX Nigerian Pastor

    On another note, I’m getting real sick of some of these niggas out here with defeatist mindset about everything

    I was on Xbox with my boy last night and this nigga do nothing but make excuses

    Why so many brothers don’t believe in themselves

    Lol u talkin bout the video game or life?

  • Sep 25, 2021
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    Van Gundy

    Lol u talkin bout the video game or life?

    Both

    I can’t do this I can’t do that ass niggas make me sick

  • Sep 25, 2021
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    Both

    I can’t do this I can’t do that ass niggas make me sick

    Wat were his excuses??

  • Sep 25, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Eldridge Cleaver is the very last nigga to be talking too

    the absolute last nigga.

  • Sep 25, 2021
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    Mulder

    Hotepism is a trauma response.

    https://twitter.com/FirstGentleman/status/1361471985918742534

    i wish more people talked about this aspect of it, that's why i hate when people mercilessly rip on them lol

  • huey p rxcan

    i wish more people talked about this aspect of it, that's why i hate when people mercilessly rip on them lol

    They forreal a lost group of Black people though. But this is unfortunately what happens to people when most of their identity and history has been stripped away from them. It's led to so many romanticized concepts of what Africans were before the Transatlantic Slave Trade.

    It's a harsh reality to face, but if they came to the Americas as a slave, chances are they were likely a slave back in one the nations of Africa. Africans were taking part in the slave trade back then too. Humans were common currency back in the 14th-19th centuries, probably earlier too. Slavery is still a regular thing in a number of countries over in Africa.

    Not to be all "we wuz kangs", but like...nah. We probably weren't. But to me, that's makes us still being here in America even more of a miracle. We outlasted slavery and became something more, with more opportunity to be more than those who came before us. We really gotta stop tryna make up who/what we were in the past, and focus on who/what we will be in the future.

  • Sep 25, 2021
    Wip

    :​

    Love to see it

  • Sep 25, 2021
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    Being pro-black is a whole mindset, I don't understand the logic of saying you can be pro black with a nonblack partner. You're pro-black except for who you choose as a partner (and yes, you do 'choose' a partner but that's a whole other discussion) Baldwin is not all that, and he had falty ass takes all the time, so no it wasn't surprising to eventually read that he didn't get down with other Black men, it aligned with other questionable s*** he has said.

    You don't need to be pro-black to advocate or anything either, this is where the confusion seems to be.

  • Sep 25, 2021
    Mulder

    Being pro-black is a whole mindset, I don't understand the logic of saying you can be pro black with a nonblack partner. You're pro-black except for who you choose as a partner (and yes, you do 'choose' a partner but that's a whole other discussion) Baldwin is not all that, and he had falty ass takes all the time, so no it wasn't surprising to eventually read that he didn't get down with other Black men, it aligned with other questionable s*** he has said.

    You don't need to be pro-black to advocate or anything either, this is where the confusion seems to be.

    why are yall still discussing this topic....we been discussing this for a year plus

  • Sep 26, 2021
    huey p rxcan

    i wish more people talked about this aspect of it, that's why i hate when people mercilessly rip on them lol

    Nah. No amount of trauma justifies the significant levels of anti-woman and anti-LGBTQIA+ rhetoric that comes from that camp.

    They will continue to be ripped on lol.

  • Oct 14, 2021
    Mulder

    Being pro-black is a whole mindset, I don't understand the logic of saying you can be pro black with a nonblack partner. You're pro-black except for who you choose as a partner (and yes, you do 'choose' a partner but that's a whole other discussion) Baldwin is not all that, and he had falty ass takes all the time, so no it wasn't surprising to eventually read that he didn't get down with other Black men, it aligned with other questionable s*** he has said.

    You don't need to be pro-black to advocate or anything either, this is where the confusion seems to be.

    Can you be 'pro-black' specifically pro-black american and date /marry an Ethiopian or a Palestinian?

  • Oct 14, 2021

    When you an anime ass nigga and learnin about Kemet

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    oct 15 marked the 55th anniversary of the creation of the black panther party

    black against empire
    look for me in the whirlwind: from the panther 21 to 21st-century revolutions
    war against the panthers

    and thomas sankara's assassination

    thomas sankara speaks
    women's liberation and the african freedom struggle
    a certain amount of madness: the life politics and legacies of thomas sankara
    tribunemag.co.uk/2021/10/after-covid-sankaras-lessons-on-debt-are-as-relevant-as-ever

    oct 19th marked the assassination/deaths of maurice bishop & samora machel

    why the u.s. invaded grenada: maurice bishop speaks to u.s. workers

    samora machel an african revolutionary

    and today gadaffi was assasinated

    gaddafi's green book
    the u.s informal empire: us african command (africom) expanding the us economic-frontier by discursively securitizing africa using exceptional speech acts

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    Bestowed

    Here's another Hebrew word and it's spelled exactly as Gullah.

    Source 1 Source 2

    Kum Ba Yah

    Kum = H6965

    Ba = H872

    Bo as you stated could be the possible word as well. Ba originates from Bo.

    Yah = H3050

    Once I come across the information again I'll share but we as black Americans do have Y DNA that takes us back to the Levant.

    they're spelled the same way because of anglicisation, not because they share a linguistic, cultural & historical origin (which they dont). גֻּלָּה, gûllâh & gullâ (both pronounced gool-law') and ˈɡələ (gullah) are not related, they're false cognates. also see africanisms in the gullah dialect by lorenzo dow turner. save the dna info, im not interested.

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    came across this book today and it piqued my interest to the point where i had to buy it. this type of a***ysis of his thought seems long overdue. notable black studies scholars praising it
    plutobooks.com/9780745340746/black-minded
    millennialsarekillingcapitalism.libsyn.com/website/all-roads-lead-to-revolution-the-political-philosophy-of-malcolm-x-with-dr-michael-sawyer

    the author being inspired to write this book after imam jamil al-amin's mention of malik during their correspondence reminded me of this interview 3:14