François Mackandal

Because the first wave of panafricanism was heavily inspired by socialism.

But you have to understand that this is based on socialism BEFORE the fall of the Berlin Wall. And truth be told Africans don't need the white man to tell them that they have to support each other as a community. There was socialism in Africa before any Russian even existed. So we are not in any way obliged to follow that script. We can make our own.

I agree with this post.

Welcome @Poignant !

I think this thread should stay just because there's some good convo already going, even though it dies out for days at a time.

I was coming up with topic of discussion because a lot has happened relating to the Black Diaspora the last 2-3 years especially.

But your participation is certainly welcome.

Anybody read Things Fall Apart? Pretty short book buts its hella good. Its historical fiction about a country that gets colonized

communists aren't white you goofy

When dudes son went to the colonists it tore me up

I love my black people, I just wanted to make a positive comment, we may have a lot of disagreements on music, but we're beautiful ❤️🖤💚

Ok, well then it's time to pass the baton to the next generation. If you like you can add some of my text to OP.

But I guess you will develop OP over time. On the last site it got people really hype when they first entered the thread.

From the list of books you referred too, I would say have you what it takes to lead this thread for the next couple of years.

So Karl Marx wasn't white?

Thanks bro.

Can you change the title to Official Black Empowerment Thread?

I will consider this the official continuation of the thread on the old site.

The thread I made earlier is locked.

Thank you @Ellinia

We will continue the conversation here

he was a prussian jew, so, no.

So Prussians were not white?

@Nightmares thought this would go well on op
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz011IF2Pu9TUWIxVWxybGJ1Ync

Whoa. Seems like a good idea

jews in the mid 19th century weren't considered white. this is a goofy conversation anyway, nobody actually considers communism to be a "white movement" and there's more active black communists in johannesburg than their are white communists across the entire USA or "black capitalists" across the entire african continent. the application of scientific socialism was an undertaking of asians, africans, and south americans.

That's nonsense. It is most definatly considered a Russian cultural heritage as far as intellectual property goes.

Doesn't matter who applied it.

Russia went out of their way to finance those who signed up to the ideology.

russia is part of asia, yes. and no, communism is not a cultural export of russia, there was already a large international movement for socialism and against colonization when the october revolution happened, you sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Russia is WHITE. Don't be crazy now.

And communism as popularized by Marx is their export.

That is the general consensus in the intellectual world, far from any conspiracy.

Now in my original post you adressed I already said that African nations had their own form of socialism and that they did not need the white man for it.

russia is not white, what on earth are you talking about; the USSR was a dense multi-ethnic confederation and for most of its existence was the victim of orientalist stereotypes and was underdeveloped due to western imperialism.

"general consensus in the intellectual world"? no offense but i think you need to get off the internet where there's still the illusion of liberal hegemony and learn about what the role of the Comintern was in fighting colonialism in Africa, how it functioned, and why most pan-africanists today are still marxist-leninists due to the successful legacy of decolonization that took place under socialist governments in Africa, particularly in Somalia, Mozambique, Burkina Faso, Madagascar, Congo-Brazzeville, etc.

What does that have to do with the legitimacy of Marxism?

Man what lol

Jews are converts bro. They write that in their Talmud and regular history during the Babylonian captivity. They aren’t the real Jews. There are African tribes rn that links themselves to being the real Jews than those mfers in Israel today.