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  • Jul 6, 2020

    marxism is only critique on a capitalism where he commented on the positives and many negatives that come with the systems

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    CNA Lov3ly

    nah man. there is something going on that we need to keep a vigilant eye on. something fishy might be going on with the organization.

    where tf is all the money going to that we're sending them

    we NEED to keep an eye on the organization

    look at their website my dude

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

    this is a direct quote within like the first paragraph

    "Black liberation movements in this country have created room, space, and leadership mostly for Black heterosexual, cisgender men — leaving women, queer and transgender people, and others either out of the movement or in the background to move the work forward with little or no recognition. As a network, we have always recognized the need to center the leadership of women and queer and trans people. To maximize our movement muscle, and to be intentional about not replicating harmful practices that excluded so many in past movements for liberation, we made a commitment to placing those at the margins closer to the center."

    i legit think the founders of the black lives matter movement are literally trying to use black men being killed by the police to attempt to stir up a coupe against black men

    we NEED to keep an eye on the leaders of this organization

    this is why you keep the s*** decentralized, I take a bullet before I let anyone else represent my thought process.

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    CNA Lov3ly

    nah man. there is something going on that we need to keep a vigilant eye on. something fishy might be going on with the organization.

    where tf is all the money going to that we're sending them

    we NEED to keep an eye on the organization

    look at their website my dude

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

    this is a direct quote within like the first paragraph

    "Black liberation movements in this country have created room, space, and leadership mostly for Black heterosexual, cisgender men — leaving women, queer and transgender people, and others either out of the movement or in the background to move the work forward with little or no recognition. As a network, we have always recognized the need to center the leadership of women and queer and trans people. To maximize our movement muscle, and to be intentional about not replicating harmful practices that excluded so many in past movements for liberation, we made a commitment to placing those at the margins closer to the center."

    i legit think the founders of the black lives matter movement are literally trying to use black men being killed by the police to attempt to stir up a coupe against black men

    we NEED to keep an eye on the leaders of this organization

    Youre reading too deeply into the paragraph

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    i am in no shape or form against BLM

    like breh i am black. i love being black. i 100% support the movement. but just in case we should kind of keep an eye on the "organization" that is claiming to represent the movement

    you know, the organization where all the donation proceeds are going to

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

    Youre reading too deeply into the paragraph

    literaly noone goes to that website before they protest, it needs to remain uncentralized, I can create a company and put up my own website.

    But it don't mean s*** when people protest for the cause.

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    HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

    Youre reading too deeply into the paragraph

    nigga this is where all of the f***ing donation money is going to.

    "youre reading too deep"

    nigga youre not even reading enough. 6 minutes ago you didnt even know this s*** was going on

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Americana 2

    @LuxuryWhip you’re stupid my guy you have never picked up a single book that accurately describes marxist policy and i can tell that off rip

    you’d be the type to say that capitalism is what actually gives each citizen the worth of their labor or that the nazis were actually socialist

    if you want me to quote exact books to you i cant

    but i've learnt a lot about soviet and chinese history in the 20th century, and the fact of the matter is that every form of artificially constructed equality and redistribution could only be achieved through murder and destruction

    the collectivisation of farms and agriculture caused many millions of people to starve to death

    thats not even starting on how it completely destroys the notion of an individual and literally turns everybody into pieces of meat that a forced to serve the common goal of an unattainable utopia

    if you disagree with any of that you're just wilfully ignorant, you can never tell me capitalism is worse than that

  • Jul 6, 2020

    if we had true capitalism the banks in 2008 would have died

    Like MLK put "what they truly advocate is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor"

  • Jul 6, 2020
    CNA Lov3ly

    https://ktt2.com/why-is-it-that-black-lives-matter-isnt-applied-for-when-black-youth-73337

    just @ him @allvvv

    Some niggas just want the satisfaction/attention that being OP of a thread brings. There’s a reason dude has 226 threads

  • CNA Lov3ly

    nigga this is where all of the f***ing donation money is going to.

    "youre reading too deep"

    nigga youre not even reading enough. 6 minutes ago you didnt even know this s*** was going on

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    Capitalism is cheeks too, but mass murders and repressions derive out of marx’s ideology just like holocaust was deriving out of mein kampf

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    dat guy

    literaly noone goes to that website before they protest, it needs to remain uncentralized, I can create a company and put up my own website.

    But it don't mean s*** when people protest for the cause.

    where do you think the money all these celebrities have been donating is going to when it says " _ is donating 500k to blacklivesmatter"

  • Jul 6, 2020
    dat guy

    this is why you keep the s*** decentralized, I take a bullet before I let anyone else represent my thought process.

    with you 100% bro

    there's always people who want to come in and champion a good cause and then twist it to their own ends

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    America never had a taste of socialism and it shows tbh

  • Jul 6, 2020
    RoomOnFire

    Capitalism is cheeks too, but mass murders and repressions derive out of marx’s ideology just like holocaust was deriving out of mein kampf

    100% facts

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    DEL_3352

    if you want me to quote exact books to you i cant

    but i've learnt a lot about soviet and chinese history in the 20th century, and the fact of the matter is that every form of artificially constructed equality and redistribution could only be achieved through murder and destruction

    the collectivisation of farms and agriculture caused many millions of people to starve to death

    thats not even starting on how it completely destroys the notion of an individual and literally turns everybody into pieces of meat that a forced to serve the common goal of an unattainable utopia

    if you disagree with any of that you're just wilfully ignorant, you can never tell me capitalism is worse than that

    What about capitalism helps the individual when the entire basis of capitalism is based around the generation of capital to live how many f***ers out there give up their dreams and join the rat race because of income issues when in a communist society artists and cultural figures could be sustained by the state without having their art detonated by the need to survive off of an income

    Capitalism literally is based off the exploitation of people to generate arbitrary wealth and in turn power. Then you end up with situations like poverty and starvation in the global south who end up being the bottom of the food chain. And not only do you have the day to day suffering of the third world as they work to make luxuries for The US and Europe, but any attempt to better the condition of the third world is actively opposed by the rich westerners who are threatened by such a change in the global balance of power (see Operation Condor, Operation Ajax, the Vietnam War as a whole, Operation Cyclone)

    Literally everything you described regarding the destruction of self and worldwide starvation is an effect of capitalism on a daily basis.

  • Jul 6, 2020

    but yea America does not understand how far right they are compared to Europe

    what Bernie Sanders advocated is standard practice in many countries but the words "socialist democrat" scared to many people away (through plenty other reasons he did not get the norm)

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    RoomOnFire

    America never had a taste of socialism and it shows tbh

    Socialism is trash too because it’s still not possible without a global south that is inevitably being exploited for resources by the state to support existent private industries

    here’s a whole article about how socialism is not a proper solution in itself

    Or you can read Imperialism in the Twenty First Century by John Smith for a more in depth viewpoint on the issues even liberal countries face in their exploitation of Africa, South America, and Asia

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    dat guy

    this is why you keep the s*** decentralized, I take a bullet before I let anyone else represent my thought process.

    completely agreed.

    we absolutely NEED to keep an eye on the black lives matter "ORGANIZATION"

    just in case. no one is paying attention to them. and i KNOW it sounds f***ed up. but there is a chance that its just a random organization that capitalized on the movement and just patented off the name. BUT we need to keep an eye on them.

    the last thing we need is some radical black feminists hijacking the movement on some weirdo narcissistic venture

    even on the site instead of say "history" it says "herstory"......

    cant even make this s*** up

  • Jul 6, 2020
    CNA Lov3ly

    where do you think the money all these celebrities have been donating is going to when it says " _ is donating 500k to blacklivesmatter"

    I got a lot of s*** for saying that in another thraed.

    but I don't agre with that, if you wanna help black people, then do so.

    no need for a "movement" to collect the cash

  • Jul 6, 2020
    CNA Lov3ly

    completely agreed.

    we absolutely NEED to keep an eye on the black lives matter "ORGANIZATION"

    just in case. no one is paying attention to them. and i KNOW it sounds f***ed up. but there is a chance that its just a random organization that capitalized on the movement and just patented off the name. BUT we need to keep an eye on them.

    the last thing we need is some radical black feminists hijacking the movement on some weirdo narcissistic venture

    even on the site instead of say "history" it says "herstory"......

    cant even make this s*** up

    i think its been commercialised since Ferguson but obvs this year it came back in full force

    i support the sentiment but i do not need to become organisation

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    Americana 2

    What about capitalism helps the individual when the entire basis of capitalism is based around the generation of capital to live how many f***ers out there give up their dreams and join the rat race because of income issues when in a communist society artists and cultural figures could be sustained by the state without having their art detonated by the need to survive off of an income

    Capitalism literally is based off the exploitation of people to generate arbitrary wealth and in turn power. Then you end up with situations like poverty and starvation in the global south who end up being the bottom of the food chain. And not only do you have the day to day suffering of the third world as they work to make luxuries for The US and Europe, but any attempt to better the condition of the third world is actively opposed by the rich westerners who are threatened by such a change in the global balance of power (see Operation Condor, Operation Ajax, the Vietnam War as a whole, Operation Cyclone)

    Literally everything you described regarding the destruction of self and worldwide starvation is an effect of capitalism on a daily basis.

    capitalism is by no means perfect, and yes there are inequalities

    but capitalism's foundation is build upon the freedom of the individual to find and pursue his own path in life, and then trade the fruits of his own talents and skills in a free market

    poverty has been steadily declining all over the developing world because of capitalism

    capitalism and free markets has allowed them drag themselves out of the mud and improve every year

    show me a country with a communist system that can do the same, you can't, because it's impossible and does not exist

    we live in the best time in human history where we can sit on the internet and argue about this dumb s*** because of capitalism

    i don't have a problem with 'socialist' policies like healthcare and welfare for those struggling but thats as far as it goes in my eyes

  • Jul 6, 2020
    CNA Lov3ly

    completely agreed.

    we absolutely NEED to keep an eye on the black lives matter "ORGANIZATION"

    just in case. no one is paying attention to them. and i KNOW it sounds f***ed up. but there is a chance that its just a random organization that capitalized on the movement and just patented off the name. BUT we need to keep an eye on them.

    the last thing we need is some radical black feminists hijacking the movement on some weirdo narcissistic venture

    even on the site instead of say "history" it says "herstory"......

    cant even make this s*** up

    I agree, I looked up the domain, and they hired another company to make sure their identity remains hidden.

    this one to be specific

    domainsbyproxy.com/default.aspx

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    DEL_3352

    capitalism is by no means perfect, and yes there are inequalities

    but capitalism's foundation is build upon the freedom of the individual to find and pursue his own path in life, and then trade the fruits of his own talents and skills in a free market

    poverty has been steadily declining all over the developing world because of capitalism

    capitalism and free markets has allowed them drag themselves out of the mud and improve every year

    show me a country with a communist system that can do the same, you can't, because it's impossible and does not exist

    we live in the best time in human history where we can sit on the internet and argue about this dumb s*** because of capitalism

    i don't have a problem with 'socialist' policies like healthcare and welfare for those struggling but thats as far as it goes in my eyes

    Capitalism is built upon the concept of capital as the name says and as specified by Adam Smith, who is credited as the first modern economist and the first person to truly theorize the machinations of capitalism in his work The Wealth of Nations. Do you know how capital is generated my guy. and if so explain it

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    DEL_3352

    capitalism is by no means perfect, and yes there are inequalities

    but capitalism's foundation is build upon the freedom of the individual to find and pursue his own path in life, and then trade the fruits of his own talents and skills in a free market

    poverty has been steadily declining all over the developing world because of capitalism

    capitalism and free markets has allowed them drag themselves out of the mud and improve every year

    show me a country with a communist system that can do the same, you can't, because it's impossible and does not exist

    we live in the best time in human history where we can sit on the internet and argue about this dumb s*** because of capitalism

    i don't have a problem with 'socialist' policies like healthcare and welfare for those struggling but thats as far as it goes in my eyes

    "capitalism's foundation is build upon the freedom of the individual"

    bro never heard of private prison labour