Jul 3, 2020·1 replyDelejaynThe casual hip hop fan never cared. Ktt is a hip hop site 99 percent isn’t causal fans.
Casual hiphop fans definitely cared about lyricism 15-20 years ago. And i wouldnt categorize everyone on ktt as hiphop heads either
Jul 3, 2020DelejaynDrake has ghostwriters for hip hip songs
yeah i dont excuse thats why he never will be in my top 20 of all time mc's
but if he stuck to doing passionfruits i wouldnt care about him having 20 writers because its a great song
- Jul 3, 2020·2 replies
martian masterHmmm, I remember reading Anna Wise did some writing/co-writing with Kendrick but dunno for sure
Consequence on hook of Encore for JAY Z (I always hear the argument hook doesn't matter)
Wayne had help at some points for sure
Atlantic tried to force Lupe to but nothing ever came of it afaik
I feel like everyone, even the GOATs get help, just behind closed doors.
Drake has Quentin miller pen the Rico verse. That’s an ultimate violation. He can’t even say it was a collab
- Jul 3, 2020MavCarter
Casual hiphop fans definitely cared about lyricism 15-20 years ago. And i wouldnt categorize everyone on ktt as hiphop heads either
Hip hop wasn’t really casual back then.
Jul 3, 2020martian masterHmmm, I remember reading Anna Wise did some writing/co-writing with Kendrick but dunno for sure
Consequence on hook of Encore for JAY Z (I always hear the argument hook doesn't matter)
Wayne had help at some points for sure
Atlantic tried to force Lupe to but nothing ever came of it afaik
I feel like everyone, even the GOATs get help, just behind closed doors.
Ain't nobody wrote for Lupe
Jul 3, 2020·1 replymartian masteru think it matter? esp now?
i feel everyone using writers at this point
especially w big writers like starrah, jozzy, christhian and their demos leaking out recently
What are some demos that leaked? I'm aware of the 2 phones one by starrah
Jul 3, 2020martian masterHmmm, I remember reading Anna Wise did some writing/co-writing with Kendrick but dunno for sure
Consequence on hook of Encore for JAY Z (I always hear the argument hook doesn't matter)
Wayne had help at some points for sure
Atlantic tried to force Lupe to but nothing ever came of it afaik
I feel like everyone, even the GOATs get help, just behind closed doors.
after someone on here pointed out to me that Nas song Queens Get The Money is basically confirmed as just a damn jay electronica song no one is safe
- Jul 3, 2020HNDRXX
What are some demos that leaked? I'm aware of the 2 phones one by starrah
Starrah pick up the phone demo leaked too
Jul 3, 2020
things really come back full circle bruh maybe it was true meek was tryna get QM to write for him tok- Jul 3, 2020
Honestly, what a time to be alive!
- Jul 3, 2020
Dream Taker
Jul 3, 2020·edited·2 replies50 cent wrote love you better for Ll cool j
DaZ and Kurupt helped write like 6 songs on all Eyez on me
Nas got verses written by jungle his brother
Wu tang literally would swap verses and write for each other
Yall in here talking bout 90’s hiphop and don’t even know the history
There’s some much more I could list
Snoop also
What top 20 rappers y’all talking bout?
because I know I could knock half y’all list off by yalll fake standards
- Jul 3, 2020
Fake 90’s hiphop standards let me know y’all don’t know nothing about hiphop.
70% of y’all legends would be disqualified from y’all list
Jul 3, 2020·edited·2 repliesDelejaynDrake has Quentin miller pen the Rico verse. That’s an ultimate violation. He can’t even say it was a collab
QM actually only wrote five lines out of a 24 bar verse on rico, so this framing is disingenuous. collabing is always fine and that's exactly what drake and QM did.
- Jul 3, 2020·3 repliesserenade
QM actually only wrote five lines out of a 24 bar verse on rico, so this framing is disingenuous. collabing is always fine and that's exactly what drake and QM did.
Drake is the one that was being disingenuous pretending like he wrote a hundred percent of it.
- Jul 3, 2020·1 replyDelejayn
Drake is the one that was being disingenuous pretending like he wrote a hundred percent of it.
Did he? He submitted QM credits on every other collab, but the final say on RICO was on meeks end
bMass28 🤰🏻Jul 3, 2020The 7 Day Theory50 cent wrote love you better for Ll cool j
DaZ and Kurupt helped write like 6 songs on all Eyez on me
Nas got verses written by jungle his brother
Wu tang literally would swap verses and write for each other
Yall in here talking bout 90’s hiphop and don’t even know the history
There’s some much more I could list
Snoop also
What top 20 rappers y’all talking bout?
because I know I could knock half y’all list off by yalll fake standards
Jul 3, 2020·1 reply
CLB ASCWhy are they still referring to bro as the “house party rapper”
That's when he peaked
- Jul 3, 2020TIIMMY BURNER
That's when he peaked
I mean, going bad was his best charting song so lmao I don’t get it
- Jul 3, 2020·2 repliesbloom
Did he? He submitted QM credits on every other collab, but the final say on RICO was on meeks end
Wrong again. The gymnastics that’s currently happening to defending having a verse written is disgusting.
Drake wanted people to think he wrote the verse. Who even uses ghostwriters for a feature. Smh
- Gojira 🦖Jul 3, 2020The 7 Day Theory
50 cent wrote love you better for Ll cool j
DaZ and Kurupt helped write like 6 songs on all Eyez on me
Nas got verses written by jungle his brother
Wu tang literally would swap verses and write for each other
Yall in here talking bout 90’s hiphop and don’t even know the history
There’s some much more I could list
Snoop also
What top 20 rappers y’all talking bout?
because I know I could knock half y’all list off by yalll fake standards
- Jul 3, 2020·1 replyDelejayn
Wrong again. The gymnastics that’s currently happening to defending having a verse written is disgusting.
Drake wanted people to think he wrote the verse. Who even uses ghostwriters for a feature. Smh
Idc who does what. theres no gymnastics either. a lot of rappers we don’t denounce had verses written to the same extent QM did for drake
There’s nothing wrong with getting a few bars and flows from a nigga when u give him credit.
Originally i was on meek side bc i thought QM was a real ghostwriter but it was plain as day for everybody to see
Jul 3, 2020DelejaynDrake is the one that was being disingenuous pretending like he wrote a hundred percent of it.
Didn't you just confidently say Quentin wrote the whole thing?
- Jul 3, 2020Delejayn
Wrong again. The gymnastics that’s currently happening to defending having a verse written is disgusting.
Drake wanted people to think he wrote the verse. Who even uses ghostwriters for a feature. Smh
This logic is as flawed as you are stupid. Quentin got credited for every song he contributed to on IYRTITL. Why would Drake not credit him for R.I.C.O if he was so intent on keeping Quentin a secret? Quentin even had a shout-out in the liner notes of IYRTITL, lmao.
- Jul 3, 2020Delejayn
Drake has Quentin miller pen the Rico verse. That’s an ultimate violation. He can’t even say it was a collab
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