Mar 21
Mar 21·2 replies
HaroldsChicken“ hip hop is just f*** b****es , get money wealth because that is what is top of the charts that’s is what black people value that is what most black people listen to . “
Same reason a racist will be quick to tell you unprovoked they do not listen to rap or at most say Eminem they view it as an inferior genre in all forms outside of the tokens . They view it as self destruction of a culture and promotion of violence and hedonism
Some of k pop is trash I never disagreed with you there . Doesn’t change not all of it is manufactured . Not all of it is controlled . Some directly criticizes those in power.
I have broken down how and why hip hop that rises to the top has fallen in terms of questioning the people in power especially post Obama era . You theorize it’s social media existing when at its core hip hop speaking truth to power and being story telling is why it thrived . Now rap is closer to pop in many cases with the goal to sell
Censorship exist whether it’s a Korean exec or a Zionist exec . You just focus on the root of one
And don’t rush to respond to this with one sentence actually read it and respond fully
Some of k pop is trash I never disagreed with you there . Doesn’t change not all of it is manufactured . Not all of it is controlled . Some directly criticizes those in power.
Not all of it is but most of it for sure is manufactured and controlled. Saying not all of it is such a cop out because obviously i dont mean literally the entire genre. Plus Kpop idols have even more control placed on them by their managers and agancy than their western popstar counterparts do.
Hip hop being closest to pop is irrelevant because the US isnt using hip hop as a tool to increase the US's influence abroad.
And you keep bringing up censorship. Nothing I said has anything to do with censorship. I didnt mention censorship a single time. Im not arguing anybody or anything is being censored. I am only arguing that Kpop is pushed by its countries respective government in a way that hip hop is not. Thats a factual statement. Period, theres no arguing against it
- Mar 21·4 replies
They really expected an MJ level type of come back
Mar 21
Laced
Mar 21
humeyhow do people listen to this s***
Mar 21CapriThey really expected an MJ level type of come back
https://twitter.com/hatecrave/status/2035368044097155563https://twitter.com/empireix/status/2035346516924137668https://twitter.com/forfunfunny/status/2035355081512829074 We need to apologize to all the drake stans and TGD. This is on another stratosphere of chart watching
- Mar 21·4 replies
Yall feel so strong about KPop but then love Japanese Jazz and Soul lol
- Mar 21Capri
They really expected an MJ level type of come back
https://twitter.com/hatecrave/status/2035368044097155563https://twitter.com/empireix/status/2035346516924137668https://twitter.com/forfunfunny/status/2035355081512829074 “Hater crave” actually if you look it up the G Square only holds like 20k or so…
- Mar 21·2 repliesFree YoungBoy
“ Yall should talk to more black kpop stans and fans”
last time i checked in on black kpop Stan’s they were letting themselves get called “n word army”Thats incredibly reductive. The Black fans I know dont stand for that s*** and got chastised for standing up to racist in their community.
- Mar 21
KeeRightfully so. Im sick of niggas tryna give away our culture to mfs who don’t even love or respect the people of our culture in the first place.
BTS is literally the worst example for this a***ogy tho. Yall are ignorant, if you research the band you see that they always pay respect to black culture and hip hop.
- Mar 21onedeep
Intro
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha) YeahChorus: RM, j-hope
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
She wanna dance on fire, everything gas, it's fire
(Oh-oh-oh, I see what you're saying, man)
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
She wanna dance on fire, everything gas, it's fire
Don't stand too close, too close to fireVerse 1: Jung Kook, V
Gimme that gasoline
Gimme that, make me fiend
Gimme that, make me sweat
Something I can't forget
Burnin' out with my slime
We in a flame, go wild
It's two hundred degreesPre-Chorus: Jimin, Jin
Club go psycho, might take you viral
I go full Thriller tonight (Ah-ah-ah-ah)
Club go crazy like Britney, baby
Hit me with it one more time
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FYA
BTS
Aliens
BTS
Body to Body
BTS
Chorus: RM
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
She wanna dance on fire (Yeah), everything gas, it's fire
Don't stand too close, too close to firePost-Chorus: RM
(Ha, ha, ha, ha) It's fire
(Ha, ha, ha, ha) It's fireVerse 2: SUGA, Jin
So hot, so hot, vibin', totally hot, hot, hot (Oh, woah)
Scary, scary, won't need a heated seat even in dead winter
We ragin,' lose it and just dance, hesitation is torture
Why you overthinking it? Just squeeze in, bungee dive in (We go right now)Pre-Chorus: Jung Kook, V
Club go psycho, might take you viral
I go full Thriller tonight (Ah-ah-ah-ah)
Club go crazy like Britney, baby
Hit me with it one more time (Ah-ah-ah-ah)Chorus: j-hope
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
She wanna dance on fire (Yeah), everything gas, it's fire
Don't stand too close, too close to fire
Outro: j-hope & Jimin, j-hope, RM & Jimin, RM
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha)
(Ha, ha, ha, ha) It's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
Everything lit, it's fire, everything big, it's fire
She wanna dance on fire (Yeah), everything gas, it's fire
Don't stand too close, too close to fireThese might be the worst lyrics I’ve seen from a major artist in years
Mar 21CapriThey really expected an MJ level type of come back
https://twitter.com/hatecrave/status/2035368044097155563https://twitter.com/empireix/status/2035346516924137668https://twitter.com/forfunfunny/status/2035355081512829074 Hate crave is such a crazy account name that can only exist on twitter lol
Mar 21
RIZGODThoughts @Drogon_ ?
von wouodn't be standing for this bs
they killed von, and let peter thiel live?
streets is done
- Mar 21·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Some of k pop is trash I never disagreed with you there . Doesn’t change not all of it is manufactured . Not all of it is controlled . Some directly criticizes those in power.
Not all of it is but most of it for sure is manufactured and controlled. Saying not all of it is such a cop out because obviously i dont mean literally the entire genre. Plus Kpop idols have even more control placed on them by their managers and agancy than their western popstar counterparts do.
Hip hop being closest to pop is irrelevant because the US isnt using hip hop as a tool to increase the US's influence abroad.
And you keep bringing up censorship. Nothing I said has anything to do with censorship. I didnt mention censorship a single time. Im not arguing anybody or anything is being censored. I am only arguing that Kpop is pushed by its countries respective government in a way that hip hop is not. Thats a factual statement. Period, theres no arguing against it
It’s not obvious you don’t mean all of it because you have spent the entire thread responding to post where I said not all of it saying “ well actually “ . I never said none of isn’t what you said . Not once . Trying to gauge “ is it the majority is it the rule “ by your hear say is where again sweeping generalizations of “ most of it “ is this comes from . There are specific bands and companies that run them that are worst than others just like the American music industry which I posed to you . If our own industry is filled with jay z , Diddy and Russell Simmons then Zionist execs . We have abuse . We have “ you either signing or leaving through the window “ . We have censorship. We have record labels with life insurance on their rappers cashing out and repressing the records . We have s***ty advances and 360 deals and fighting for masters . Also as I said we have things the government will be sure a record black balls you for politically . We have seen all of that occur in reality
To disregard all of that rather than acknowledge the Asians doing it too . We have pop stars like Bieber who were abused and pumping out music . Britney Spears conservatorship. Ariana grande Nickelodeon and overworked constantly touring
So I’m confused besides “ Korea wants its pop stars to do well so they are known for something other than war “ bothers you . American pop stars are worldwide because for better or worse we are the culture and whiteness is desired . Emulation of blackness by Koreans also isn’t new when black is viewed as cool . They are emulating at times and at times yes it’s exploitation but to say all of it or the majority based on limited knowledge isn’t true . You are speaking in the most main stream of their content . Just as people judge rap by the main stream
- Mar 21Free YoungBoy
Some of k pop is trash I never disagreed with you there . Doesn’t change not all of it is manufactured . Not all of it is controlled . Some directly criticizes those in power.
Not all of it is but most of it for sure is manufactured and controlled. Saying not all of it is such a cop out because obviously i dont mean literally the entire genre. Plus Kpop idols have even more control placed on them by their managers and agancy than their western popstar counterparts do.
Hip hop being closest to pop is irrelevant because the US isnt using hip hop as a tool to increase the US's influence abroad.
And you keep bringing up censorship. Nothing I said has anything to do with censorship. I didnt mention censorship a single time. Im not arguing anybody or anything is being censored. I am only arguing that Kpop is pushed by its countries respective government in a way that hip hop is not. Thats a factual statement. Period, theres no arguing against it
The us government benefits from all music going worldwide that doesn’t question them . These are AMERICAN based companies that profit that spend their money in AMERICA. That hire AMERICANS. Our influence doesn’t need to exist because again we have American bases there we are physically there by force . Without American art the view of America would be worse it would just be our imperialism and worldwide sports . Our art is what humanizes us again I’ve said this multiple times
Mar 21·1 reply
WRUamerican music fans need to start being racist towards south koreans
They are Its just called being racist towards East Asians in general
- Mar 21backJT
Thats incredibly reductive. The Black fans I know dont stand for that s*** and got chastised for standing up to racist in their community.
- Mar 21Black Smoke
Idk why you asking me about Kendrick Lamar in a kpop thread. Its irrelevant to the discussion
Part of the discussion is directly cultural appropriation I can give many rappers and black artist who have appropriated culture to various degrees without any form of reaction
- Mar 21·1 replybackJT
Thats incredibly reductive. The Black fans I know dont stand for that s*** and got chastised for standing up to racist in their community.
And the black fans that ive seen do take the abuse. I dont see how my take is reductive and yours is representative of reality. We're bothing describing what weve seen
- Mar 21
And for the last time the government benefits look at what Daniel elk is invested in . Tim Cook and Jay Z . All dsps got government contracts
- Mar 21·1 replyHaroldsChicken
It’s not obvious you don’t mean all of it because you have spent the entire thread responding to post where I said not all of it saying “ well actually “ . I never said none of isn’t what you said . Not once . Trying to gauge “ is it the majority is it the rule “ by your hear say is where again sweeping generalizations of “ most of it “ is this comes from . There are specific bands and companies that run them that are worst than others just like the American music industry which I posed to you . If our own industry is filled with jay z , Diddy and Russell Simmons then Zionist execs . We have abuse . We have “ you either signing or leaving through the window “ . We have censorship. We have record labels with life insurance on their rappers cashing out and repressing the records . We have s***ty advances and 360 deals and fighting for masters . Also as I said we have things the government will be sure a record black balls you for politically . We have seen all of that occur in reality
To disregard all of that rather than acknowledge the Asians doing it too . We have pop stars like Bieber who were abused and pumping out music . Britney Spears conservatorship. Ariana grande Nickelodeon and overworked constantly touring
So I’m confused besides “ Korea wants its pop stars to do well so they are known for something other than war “ bothers you . American pop stars are worldwide because for better or worse we are the culture and whiteness is desired . Emulation of blackness by Koreans also isn’t new when black is viewed as cool . They are emulating at times and at times yes it’s exploitation but to say all of it or the majority based on limited knowledge isn’t true . You are speaking in the most main stream of their content . Just as people judge rap by the main stream
So I’m confused besides “ Korea wants its pop stars to do well so they are known for something other than war “ bothers you .
Where did I say it bothers me? I just stated that fact. It is what it is. Their government pushes their artists. IDK why that fact makes you so upset that you have to argue it fort pages and pages. You even acknowledge they do it in a way that the US doesnt.
Rest of what you said is a whole bunch of nothing and responding to more strawmans youve built up in your mind
Mar 21·4 replies@Nikedufflebag is right lol. SK views kpop as an industry and a valuable cultural export. The way SK views Kpop is clearly on a different scale than the way U.S views their music industry especially hip hop.
SK literally made a law to let certain Kpop groups deferred enlistment. That s*** aint happening for no rapper
Mar 21·1 replyOblivion X@Nikedufflebag is right lol. SK views kpop as an industry and a valuable cultural export. The way SK views Kpop is clearly on a different scale than the way U.S views their music industry especially hip hop.
SK literally made a law to let certain Kpop groups deferred enlistment. That s*** aint happening for no rapper
That's the thing, nobody is saying @Nikedufflebag is wrong, we just saying that the explanation is cultural differences
- Mar 21·1 replyFree YoungBoy
And the black fans that ive seen do take the abuse. I dont see how my take is reductive and yours is representative of reality. We're bothing describing what weve seen
Yes but what Im saying already observes that those types of fans exists. Your framing posits that only one type exists which are the coons.