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  • Nov 27, 2019
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    lil hbk

    So we just discounting Days Before Rodeo

    I'm just saying the projects and the new artists who came up from 2008-2014 are what I came up on

    2015 was like the end of the wave, Drake became too big (:dash: )
    Travis had his first real hit, Future peaked, Weeknd went full pop

    Just look at the projects and new artist (mainstream-wise) who broke thru from 2008-2014

    808s and HB
    MBDTF
    So Far Gone (new artist)
    Take Care
    The Warm Up (new artist)
    Friday Nights Lights
    2014 Forest Hills Drive
    Man on The Moon (new artist)
    Teflon Don
    House of Balloons (new artist)
    nostalgia.Ultra (new artist)
    Channel Orange
    Section 80 (new artist)
    LiveLoveASAP (new artist)
    Days Before Rodeo (new artist)
    Acid Rap
    Future's Monster mixtape
    Kush & OJ

    Young Thug blew up in 2014
    Migos blew up in 2013

    All those new legends with legendary songs and legendary mixtapes/albums

    I said Travis blew up in 2015. People weren't checking for DBR like that. Travis is associated with the 2nd half of this decade.

    And idk why ur counting 2008 and 2009 that was an entirely different era.

    Lmaooo Thug and Migos are artists from this half of the decade. Migos didnt blow up in 2013. They had street hits people knew about but nobody was checking for them in the mainstream like that until like 2016. Thug in 2015 regardless those artists are extensions of what's going on right now.

    There's enough young talent coming out right now that will steadily rise. If you can't find music out then you simply a hater.

    Like I said before people hated on the first half of the decade outside a few artists.

    People said drake sang too much
    Cudi couldn't even rap.
    Cole and Kendrick were two of the few to get respect and make an impact

    There's enough talent out right now:
    Saba
    JID
    Kodak
    Youngboy
    Lil Baby
    Gunna
    Griselda
    Melly
    Cordae
    Polo G
    G Herbo
    Cardi
    SZA
    Summer Walker
    Brent Faiyaz/Sonder
    H.E.R.
    Ella Mai
    Jorja Smith
    Snoh Aalegra
    Ari Lennox
    Post
    Uzi
    Carti

    And a huge number of these acts will last for 5-10 years and a few longer than that.

  • Nov 27, 2019

    Like, most of the acts that came out during the first half aren't even here anymore. Outside Meek, Drake, Future, Cole, Kendrick, Nicki, Tyler, who else is really here making some kind of impact? Really nobody

  • Nov 27, 2019
    HOV INNOCENT

    This might be true to some extent but in this era there still seems to be a ton of influence from white kids, I guess a lot of them tend toward project type stuff because they want to live vicariously. Where does someone like Carti fit into this in your eyes? The meme is kind of that his fan base is a bunch of white middle schoolers wearing vlone

    I mean there's always gonna be a rapper like that from now on but most new rappers dont have meme fanbases like that right now. Soundcloud era brought us those memes but that era is dying. I don't listen to Carti but he def got black fans too

  • lil hbk

    niggas not even tryna make great full-body of works fam smh

    like i kinda rock with Juice WRLD but his projects just be a few catchy tunes and then a bunch of mid

    Even Carti who i like, i go back to maybe 5 songs outta 19 on Die Lit

    Same with Kodak, same with 21 Savage, same with Post Malone etc etc

    2015 and on most these niggas, new artists and established artists, just want hits fam

    i can appreciate carti and kodak cause to me they have such a distinct style that represents them and they seem to care about presenting that

    i always end up really liking artists when i first see or hear them and have the feeling i should know them or that theyre very interesting and i got that feeling with those two as well as all the artists u mentioned from earlier on

    but i see new artists like polo g and nle choppa and immediately look at them as fabricated or a plant even if thats not their case, they just seem to be a person heavily backed and conforming to youtube-like audience to make profit

  • Nov 27, 2019
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    lil hbk

    When you consider that we came up during a time when this man was in his artistic prime

    !https://youtube.com/watch?v=XEBGqhDfg2Y

    fam no one is coming close to this or even shows the potential to do this

    Need someone to restore the feeling fam

    Blonde out now

  • Nov 27, 2019
    lil hbk

    When you consider that we came up during a time when this man was in his artistic prime

    !https://youtube.com/watch?v=XEBGqhDfg2Y

    fam no one is coming close to this or even shows the potential to do this

    Need someone to restore the feeling fam

    Ok Boomer

  • Nov 27, 2019
    ranch dubois

    blessing in disguise tbh, forced me to listen to other genres and I can't even listen to rap anymore everything else is just too good

    Dudes on a rap forum talking about he can't listen to rap cuz it's the worst genre

    Like I'm not thrillled about where I'm at in life but at least I ain't that

  • Nov 27, 2019
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    Durkio World

    I said Travis blew up in 2015. People weren't checking for DBR like that. Travis is associated with the 2nd half of this decade.

    And idk why ur counting 2008 and 2009 that was an entirely different era.

    Lmaooo Thug and Migos are artists from this half of the decade. Migos didnt blow up in 2013. They had street hits people knew about but nobody was checking for them in the mainstream like that until like 2016. Thug in 2015 regardless those artists are extensions of what's going on right now.

    There's enough young talent coming out right now that will steadily rise. If you can't find music out then you simply a hater.

    Like I said before people hated on the first half of the decade outside a few artists.

    People said drake sang too much
    Cudi couldn't even rap.
    Cole and Kendrick were two of the few to get respect and make an impact

    There's enough talent out right now:
    Saba
    JID
    Kodak
    Youngboy
    Lil Baby
    Gunna
    Griselda
    Melly
    Cordae
    Polo G
    G Herbo
    Cardi
    SZA
    Summer Walker
    Brent Faiyaz/Sonder
    H.E.R.
    Ella Mai
    Jorja Smith
    Snoh Aalegra
    Ari Lennox
    Post
    Uzi
    Carti

    And a huge number of these acts will last for 5-10 years and a few longer than that.

    "no one was checking for DBR like that"

    conversation over fam lol you were probably like 9 years old so i wouldn't expect you to know but as someone who was just starting college DBR was very relevant

    i'm not getting into specifics with years and eras, a person's high school years and early college years is when music is usually most important to them

    the music i listed was what the soundtrack to my high school and college years were and what most "neo-dustheads" were listening to. Literally right before streaming took over when mixtapes were actually mixtapes on Datpiff and Livemixtapes not ITunes and niggas blew up through blogs and co-signs, not memes and trolling and clout chasing

    Maybe i shouldve specified state of rap thou not state of music, cuz the r&b acts you listed are doing some dope stuff

    But maybe 3 people you listed have full body of works, most of them just got a lot of hot songs which is cool but i grew up on albums and mixtapes, not singles

    And you can't say no one was checking for DBR like that and then post niggas like JID Griselda and Brent Fiyaz fam lol not saying they not dope but my whole point was the dope music was also the most popular

    and before people say "who cares what popular listen to what you want yadda yadda" true indeed but im speaking on the state of music, not just what i'm listening too. The new niggas who are at the forefront the last 3 years just ain't making full body of works that probably last.

    They making some very dope songs that will probably last, i'll give em that

  • Nov 27, 2019
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    dam we rly get like 10 of these threads a day

  • Nov 27, 2019
    lil hbk
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    "no one was checking for DBR like that"

    conversation over fam lol you were probably like 9 years old so i wouldn't expect you to know but as someone who was just starting college DBR was very relevant

    i'm not getting into specifics with years and eras, a person's high school years and early college years is when music is usually most important to them

    the music i listed was what the soundtrack to my high school and college years were and what most "neo-dustheads" were listening to. Literally right before streaming took over when mixtapes were actually mixtapes on Datpiff and Livemixtapes not ITunes and niggas blew up through blogs and co-signs, not memes and trolling and clout chasing

    Maybe i shouldve specified state of rap thou not state of music, cuz the r&b acts you listed are doing some dope stuff

    But maybe 3 people you listed have full body of works, most of them just got a lot of hot songs which is cool but i grew up on albums and mixtapes, not singles

    And you can't say no one was checking for DBR like that and then post niggas like JID Griselda and Brent Fiyaz fam lol not saying they not dope but my whole point was the dope music was also the most popular

    and before people say "who cares what popular listen to what you want yadda yadda" true indeed but im speaking on the state of music, not just what i'm listening too. The new niggas who are at the forefront the last 3 years just ain't making full body of works that probably last.

    They making some very dope songs that will probably last, i'll give em that

    I was about to start sophmore year in college when DBR came out. I'm also from Texas. Nobody was checking for DBR like that. Rodeo didnt even move big numbers when it first came out and that was before streaming took over. Travis didnt have a big impact on rap until the next year.

    2014 was still drill music and the early transition back to street and trap.
    Thug, Quan, Future, Durk, Herbo, and Gates all had a bigger impact. Then you add Schoolboy Q with Oxymoron, YG with My Krazy Life, and Cole with FHD.

    Nobody associates 2014 as the year of travis besides travis stans.

  • Nov 27, 2019
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    Man talking about blowing up from blogs like that isnt the definition of the internet and not a real following like in the past. More artists are blowing up organically now than before but he focuses on the pumps of the world. It's funny cause he mentioned young thug who blew up primarily from trolling and dissing Lil Wayne lmao.

  • Nov 27, 2019
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    yung goyard

    dam we rly get like 10 of these threads a day

    Maybe cuz it's an actual issue rn but every time it's made all the delusionals say it's just bc ur a boomer lmao

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    Warrior

    Maybe cuz it's an actual issue rn but every time it's made all the delusionals say it's just bc ur a boomer lmao

    these pessimistic attitudes aren't helping. rap will be fine.

    and it is a boomer mentality to think future music will never amount to old music, and this is coming from someone who actually thinks older music was better. you just have to have faith and stop being so negative.

  • Nov 27, 2019

    “What’s next for hip hop”

    “Rap sucks now”

    This s*** need to stop damn you niggas annoying af

  • Nov 27, 2019
    Tubig

    It's just a down year. Had to expect it. It'll be back up.

    its not even that thou, i feel like the artists who blew up the last few years can't make a full body of work to save their lives

    i'm moreso concerned with the future than the present tbh

  • Nov 27, 2019
    WOOPDEYSCOOP

    Blonde out now

    You heard his most recent output thou

    I feel like Frank put so much emotion and thought into the Blonde era and now he just wanna mess around and not take the music too seriously which i understand

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    Durkio World

    Man talking about blowing up from blogs like that isnt the definition of the internet and not a real following like in the past. More artists are blowing up organically now than before but he focuses on the pumps of the world. It's funny cause he mentioned young thug who blew up primarily from trolling and dissing Lil Wayne lmao.

    nah you right Thug falls more on the recent wave my bad now that i think of it but he was the first of his kind so at he at least he stood out, now everyone trolling and getting hot off antics.

    i'm reaching by including Travis and Thug but that's cuz they are pretty much the beginning of this current wave and still had some of that creativity and originality that defined the 2008-2013 wave

    Never said year of travis thou, but the buzz around DBR was similar to Kendrick with Section 80, Rocky with LLA, Chance with Acid Rap etc

    He wasn't all the way there yet but it was clear with that project he was up next

    my point was never about blowing up off the internet thou just that blogs and co-signs from big artist and having a hot mixtape were what defined that new era of artists, now its memes and having a hot song or two