True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?
Raegan is remembered fondly by millions and Bush’s image has been rehabilitated
See your keeping it to politicians but just socially there's been a real shift to the right like even without him and her.
From how people feel about queer people to immigration to Black people it's just kind of all shifted another way and I feel like the reality is for you to win now that paradigm has to be accepted first and saying "well it was how she ran" isn't accepting that.
Like her campaign was flawed as hell but the reality I feel like I'm not seeing acknowledged here is and I speak as someone in a swing state that went red is alot of these people were not just mad at the economy gang.
Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all
Well on one hand that's true. On the other hand, Republicans hate them both
Yeah and that's kind of the heart of it that I haven't seen a real answer for is like how do you convince these people to get over their prejudices?.
Yeah like as a nigga on the ground floor that Bernie s*** is funny cause he's like "The working class felt abandoned" and I'm like gang the working class hates trans people.
I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...
Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all
Only way someone thinks Kamala is far left is because she's black/brown and a woman and they think any representation at the top level is white male genocide
True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?
Dems were begging for a Dubya dorsement
newsweek.com/liz-cheney-calls-george-w-bush-endorse-kamala-harris-election-1979034
Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all
Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.
You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob
True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?
The movie about Reagan made a serious profit
I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...
And thus the heart of the issue. I love Obama but he didn't have the heart to do the things he should have while he was in office.
The difference between the dems and repubs is that if a Republican says they will do something, no matter how deplorable, you believe them. Dems have been all talk for awhile now.
Only way someone thinks Kamala is far left is because she's black/brown and a woman and they think any representation at the top level is white male genocide
They look at her father being a Marxist then say she’s a Marxist
Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.
You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob
We're catastrophically stupid as a nation and it's still moving downward. And i say that with love its not out of hate, somehow
Yeah and that's kind of the heart of it that I haven't seen a real answer for is like how do you convince these people to get over their prejudices?.
You address people’s material concerns that can only come from a party not dominated by the capitalist class
Neither party has an answer so the realm of debate in politics is reduced to 4 or 5 largely trivial identity issues
Housing
Healthcare
Education
And no, it isnt going to come from the current system. I’m not sure if yall even listen because half the time yall argue with communists who say this over and over
I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...
But gang and I say this as a black person in the south it's been a many of niggas who died tryna convince these white people of their concrete interest.
At one point do you begin to accept or even question that maybe their concrete interest is white supremacy and they'd rather be a slave in this system then equal in one that puts them with others ?
Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.
You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob
What do you think Harris should’ve done differently?
They look at her father being a Marxist then say she’s a Marxist
Conflating marxism with liberalism is super easy for the right since people dont know how to f***ing read in this country
I mean realistically genocide wasn't punished but in fact rewarded even more since Trump gives no f***s about Palestine lmfao
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months
And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?
Can’t fix stupid
What do you think Harris should’ve done differently?
I mean I really don't think there was a way to win this in alot of ways ngl for one running a woman was a mistake off rip so there's that
Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.
You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob
And what's crazy is all his rose tinted bullshit. I worked in lumber sales during covid, prices increased 300% across the board. Everything was higher, where was this golden age economy and how did I miss it?
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months
And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?
Can’t fix stupid
So when Israel continues getting funding under Trump then what?
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months
And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?
Can’t fix stupid
So what’s the plan after Trump takes office?
But gang and I say this as a black person in the south it's been a many of niggas who died tryna convince these white people of their concrete interest.
At one point do you begin to accept or even question that maybe their concrete interest is white supremacy and they'd rather be a slave in this system then equal in one that puts them with others ?
I agree. I'm from France and so-called "leftists" are trying to seduce white racists, as if the interests of white racists weren't racism. But the genuine socialists are accused of being Woke. It's a s***show. Our electoral systems are a scam, anyway. It's accentuating the absurdity.