Sep 20, 2021So for a week coming up my employer is asking us to work Swedish hours.
For a week I would start work at 3am and end at like 2pm.
This seems stupid because I won’t be productive in the middle of the night, and I don’t want to mess up my sleep schedule for a few days just to painstakingly revert back when the week is done.
Is this legal and can I push back on this idea?
Sep 20, 2021·1 replyi dunno. why Swedish hours
Sep 20, 2021·3 repliesAre you working remote?
If yes just go somewhere in Europe for a week
Do some s*** there on the weekends
garetare ✅Sep 20, 2021·1 replyI dont see why it wouldn't be legal. Just a d*** move tbh
- Sep 20, 2021Lou
i dunno. why Swedish hours
That’s where we have the main office
- Sep 20, 2021·2 repliesRonin
Are you working remote?
If yes just go somewhere in Europe for a week
Do some s*** there on the weekends
JuSt Go SoMeWhErE iN EuRoPe FoR a WeEk
- Sep 20, 2021Squilliam
JuSt Go SoMeWhErE iN EuRoPe FoR a WeEk
Yes
Flaphead 🎧Sep 20, 2021·2 repliesRoninAre you working remote?
If yes just go somewhere in Europe for a week
Do some s*** there on the weekends
You pay for it then if it's that easy
- Sep 20, 2021garetare
I dont see why it wouldn't be legal. Just a d*** move tbh
He was laughing about it too like it would be enjoyable for the employees
- Sep 20, 2021Ronin
Are you working remote?
If yes just go somewhere in Europe for a week
Do some s*** there on the weekends
Tyler the creator itt
- garetare ✅Sep 20, 2021·1 replySquilliam
JuSt Go SoMeWhErE iN EuRoPe FoR a WeEk
f*** it
- Sep 20, 2021Flaphead
You pay for it then if it's that easy
No
- Flaphead 🎧Sep 20, 2021·1 replySquilliam
So for a week coming up my employer is asking us to work Swedish hours.
For a week I would start work at 3am and end at like 2pm.
This seems stupid because I won’t be productive in the middle of the night, and I don’t want to mess up my sleep schedule for a few days just to painstakingly revert back when the week is done.
Is this legal and can I push back on this idea?
Sadly that's definitely legal especially given the advance notice. I've had to do the same sort of s***.
It's a terrible plan on their part and anyone doing it will not be operating at their best, full stop. I'd raise that point early and often as you can. If you do have to go through with it, document it and have that ready both for defense if there's concern about your performance (while f***ing shifting time zones to Sweden) and for your next review.
Pro tip: get some cold brew, either canned or using a diffuser. It's significantly less acidic and when I used to regularly do 430am shifts it made me feel far less garbage than traditional coffee.
Sep 20, 2021Flaphead You pay for it then if it's that easy
bruh was like
"simple just relocate during a pandemic get an apartment and you good duh"- Sep 20, 2021garetare
f*** it
garetare rich IRL
so he aint joking yall - Sep 20, 2021·1 replyFlaphead
Sadly that's definitely legal especially given the advance notice. I've had to do the same sort of s***.
It's a terrible plan on their part and anyone doing it will not be operating at their best, full stop. I'd raise that point early and often as you can. If you do have to go through with it, document it and have that ready both for defense if there's concern about your performance (while f***ing shifting time zones to Sweden) and for your next review.
Pro tip: get some cold brew, either canned or using a diffuser. It's significantly less acidic and when I used to regularly do 430am shifts it made me feel far less garbage than traditional coffee.
Appreciate the tips with coffee.
Unfortunately it’s a small company and I’m new here so im not too comfortable disagreeing with management yet.
Worried about putting a target on my back or getting the reputation that im “difficult”
- Sep 20, 2021
3am is rough and a lot to ask for. I'd see if you could compromise and start around 5-6.
- Flaphead 🎧Sep 20, 2021·1 replySquilliam
Appreciate the tips with coffee.
Unfortunately it’s a small company and I’m new here so im not too comfortable disagreeing with management yet.
Worried about putting a target on my back or getting the reputation that im “difficult”
I hear you - definitely been there. If there’s any kind of route to voice that to your direct boss like “hey, still going to do it, but here’s my concern. I want to do the best work I can, do you have any advice?” etc. I’d do it if you can. Either way, keep detailed documentation of what you were asked to do, when, how it went, etc. including the initial ask.
Especially when the power dynamic is as it is here, you always need to be prepared to defend yourself if they try to pin anything that goes wrong on you in the worst case. And I like I said before, best case that’s a hell of a case for a raise come review time.
Sep 20, 20213AM - 2PM
RIP
- Sep 20, 2021·1 replyFlaphead
I hear you - definitely been there. If there’s any kind of route to voice that to your direct boss like “hey, still going to do it, but here’s my concern. I want to do the best work I can, do you have any advice?” etc. I’d do it if you can. Either way, keep detailed documentation of what you were asked to do, when, how it went, etc. including the initial ask.
Especially when the power dynamic is as it is here, you always need to be prepared to defend yourself if they try to pin anything that goes wrong on you in the worst case. And I like I said before, best case that’s a hell of a case for a raise come review time.
Doubt I can use this as leverage for a raise as the whole company is expected to do it.
But I will definitely raise the point with my supervisor and voice my concerns. Unfortunately he’s roped into it too as the decision was made by his superior
Sep 20, 2021Mf should move his office to Sweden if he wants Swedish hours
- Flaphead 🎧Sep 20, 2021·1 replySquilliam
Doubt I can use this as leverage for a raise as the whole company is expected to do it.
But I will definitely raise the point with my supervisor and voice my concerns. Unfortunately he’s roped into it too as the decision was made by his superior
Yeah, that’s rough. I think you’re doing the best thing though. Your superior should act as a person enabling you to do the best work possible in light of any choices by their superiors.
Imo as a person who’s both been in your situation and a person who now has direct reports, having someone come to me as a boss and voice their concern while still showing commitment to doing good work would be amazing.
- 0 👀Sep 20, 2021·1 reply
Just move to Sweden wagie
Sep 20, 2021SquilliamSo for a week coming up my employer is asking us to work Swedish hours.
For a week I would start work at 3am and end at like 2pm.
This seems stupid because I won’t be productive in the middle of the night, and I don’t want to mess up my sleep schedule for a few days just to painstakingly revert back when the week is done.
Is this legal and can I push back on this idea?
no. i mean yes.
- Sep 20, 2021·1 replyFlaphead
Yeah, that’s rough. I think you’re doing the best thing though. Your superior should act as a person enabling you to do the best work possible in light of any choices by their superiors.
Imo as a person who’s both been in your situation and a person who now has direct reports, having someone come to me as a boss and voice their concern while still showing commitment to doing good work would be amazing.
Yea that sounds like the best way to go about it. Thanks man