Drake is a Hip-Hop nerd and there's evidence of this dating back to his teenage years

He's not a Hip-Hop colonizer or appropriator of culture. Of course in the music business, these things are transactional, but he's legitimately gave light to everyone that he's collaborated with and the culture that they represent.

It's a good play by Kendrick, but like, what? He's put hundreds of thousands of dollars back into Atlanta, Chicago, etc. it falls flat.

bunch of patrick beverlys

most of this is revisionist history tbh

21 basically says it all.

Oh we coming with facts today

How has Drake put “hundreds of thousands of dollars” back into Chicago and Atlanta exactly? How did he make them more culturally relevant within hip hop itself?

With Migos too after Versace Remix like 2014-2015 I think when Offset went to jail and it was just Quavo and Takeoff

People were saying Migos fell off and commercially they weren’t making that much noise in mainstream

It wasn’t until Bad and Boujee + onset of streaming era + that afterwards Migos really became like big big and they started taking over the mainstream fr with features and Quavo and Offset growing more as solo artists

He's spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in strip clubs of those locations for one 😂

In all seriousness though, his collaborating with these artists was mutually beneficial and it was he often times, giving them the songs, which allowed them to make more money off of their catalogs.

I am not saying that he made anyone hotter or anything like that, I would never said he made the Migos more culturally relevant, but he 100% made their bags bigger. I just don't see the cultural appropriation here. He's a Hip-Hop nerd who spent a considerable amount of time growing up in southern Memphis.

Increasing your bag or paycheck doesn’t automatically negate what I posted tbh

And that still doesn’t change what that video said

Future, Lil Baby, etc are already culturally relevant within their own spheres and “big” to their target audience before Drake comes along

Streaming numbers/how much your label cuts doesn’t really matter here

But they were the first song millions put on from their catalog at first

It accelerates the process. Would they have blown up without a Drake feature? Possibly. Eventually. Drake just made it happen faster. Are they happy with that outcome? I don’t see why not

If you’re a good enough artist you take that platform and use it as a springboard to reach higher heights faster than you would’ve initially. That’s what Migos did, that’s what Kendrick did, that’s what baby did. Doesn’t always work out that way, sometimes people get a feature and still don’t take off cus they didn’t put the work in or artist that great musically (smiley, makkonen, etc)

Future and Drake’s most popular project is basically a future album

Yes future got a bigger and possibly more white audience with WATTBA but overall Drake definitely benefitted more from working with an ATL sound and being close with Future more so than Future getting “exposure” from Drake

Like I’ll give you Life is Good.

One song

But that wasn’t really shifting in cultural relevancy or something just a song that became a hit

But futures biggest songs are the ones where he is the prominent part

You are vastly diminishing Drake's impact on future's career.

Super's first gold record came from Tony Montana. Future's first huge tour was Would you Like a Tour

He took Future on the road w/him. Did the same with Chainz, Migos, etc.

You are arguing points that I never said. I never said he made these guys culturally relevant. I am not arguing who benefitted more. It's obviously mutually beneficial.

I simply said that he collaborated with these acts, shed light on them which allowed them to become even bigger acts. I don't see the maliciousness, or cultural appropriation is my point. His roots in southern Hip-Hop were well established long before he was 'drake'

Like you missed the point of 21 as well

Her Loss was obviously on a purely commercial level a net benefit more for 21 than Drake that’s not really surprising

But hip hop is more than just how many streams you get or what charts high on billboard

Drake wanted 21 for more street cred with the younger generation and being big in spaces where the dominant hip hop artists isn’t just Top 10 billboard artists

What are you really arguing man lol

Drake's a superstar artist. He collaborated with a ton of acts from Atlanta, and helped them become bigger stars. The relationships that he created with these stars were mutually beneficial.

I am not arguing that Drake didn't benefit or that he was providing charity. I am not arguing about cultural relevancy, I never said they needed drake for that?

He’s talking about Atlanta here. Feel like that would be obvious they feel that way.

Fact remains for people who aren’t as tapped in, which are most music listeners, they probably got their first exposure to Migos with Versace remix. That’s how it goes.

If its revisionist history please list the hits Migos and Lil Baby had prior to Versace Remix and Yes indeed respectively

Please include the chart position

If you can’t do that stfu please

Ain’t nobody saying they were non existent prior to Drake I’m just saying them collabing with Drake was their first big commercial break and even they will tell you that wtf

Your whole premise is arguing that Kendrick is wrong because Drake made x,y,z bag bigger or more prominent in commercial spaces, is it not?

You are entitled to disagree with Kendrick but you are choosing to define what you mean by “mutually beneficiall” when Kendrick isn’t even addressing that Drake didn’t help x artists on a commercial level

And ppl are explaining why

I’m not putting words in your mouth but you either don’t understand Kendrick’s actual argument or disagree. But either way you’re going around the point in the disses

You lose the second you bring up s*** like chart position

Who tf is a fanboy I just pulled up to the crib bumping Not Like Us lol I can rap that s*** word for word

I don’t give a f*** about none of these niggas I’m just tired of y’all lying just bc y’all have a vendetta against Drake

I hate hating ass niggas

But… yall keep bringing up charts when this whole diss has been about f*** the industry f*** the charts it’s culture

And you choose to say “well this is wrong because he did made this song chart here”

If you disagree that’s cool but you are arguing a point that Kendrick isn’t even talking about in the disses lol

My premise is simply that Drake isn't a cultural appropriator just because he created a mutually beneficial relationship with other artists in the music industry.

That's it.

These are music artists. He collaborated with them. Put them on tours. Explain where the appropriation and colonizing comes in at

Nigga that’s what the whole conversation is about wtf is you talking about

Nigga this has never been about charts?

And dawg?

Hannah Montana
Ounces
Just Wait On It
Fight Night
Pipe it Up
Bando
Shootas
Handsome & Wealthy

….. are you serious? Chart positions?