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  • Mar 19
    Windmaster

    Im not rly interested in a communism lecture as much as im trying to highlight a very specific flaw in the system that i dont think most people have considered

    Karl Marx understood capitalism more than most capitalists

    If you want some more modern/digestible takes on capitalism I’d look into Robert Reich I think he even has a documentary on Netflix

  • Windmaster

    Im not rly interested in a communism lecture as much as im trying to highlight a very specific flaw in the system that i dont think most people have considered

    kapital is much more a critique of then-prominent political economy and a***ysis of generalised commodity production rather than a manifesto towards one system or another

    it’s kind of ludicrous even ignoring Marx there’s centuries of bourgeois economists who have already had this debate and it’s been debunked and rehashed and debated 200 years ago

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    Windmaster

    Im not rly interested in a communism lecture as much as im trying to highlight a very specific flaw in the system that i dont think most people have considered

    Genuine question tho why would you not be interested in the ideas of people who considered this flaw and a***yzed the system most thoroughly for over a century already

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Genuine question tho why would you not be interested in the ideas of people who considered this flaw and a***yzed the system most thoroughly for over a century already

    Its not that im not interested i just dont have time for all that rn

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    one thing I hate about capitalism, at least within the structure of work, is that the goal is always maximize profits and minimize expenses. that means if they can get a guy who can do 3 different jobs and pay him as if he was doing one, they will do that especially if that said employee doesn't push back on it.

    profits over people at all costs

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    earthwalka

    one thing I hate about capitalism, at least within the structure of work, is that the goal is always maximize profits and minimize expenses. that means if they can get a guy who can do 3 different jobs and pay him as if he was doing one, they will do that especially if that said employee doesn't push back on it.

    profits over people at all costs

    Yea this is why i believe the stock market should be abolished

  • Windmaster

    Yea this is why i believe the stock market should be abolished

    the system creates a people with no empathy and no real morals. business is just business.

  • Plight2

    of course, im not a huge marx fan tho, i think we need a hybrid system

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    Windmaster

    of course, im not a huge marx fan tho, i think we need a hybrid system

    one thing i strongly believe is complicated problems require complicated solutions. we need a system that is atleast partially democratic but also managed carefully by people with advanced knowledge/intellect/compassion

    marx sort of just picks the opposite extreme of capitalism which is equally dangerous

    what youre describing existed, it was called socialism. every middle class person has this moment youre having where you realize the system doesn't work, the correct thing to do is to take it seriously and overthrow the system.

  • Windmaster

    Its not that im not interested i just dont have time for all that rn

    you have time to post on ktt, you have time to read

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    Windmaster

    Its not that im not interested i just dont have time for all that rn

    but u had time to make a thread and be like “Gee why aren’t more people talking about this”

    My brother in capital, the people are talking

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    also bro

    “This topic deserves a book” + “I can’t read” =

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    Snowboy

    what youre describing existed, it was called socialism. every middle class person has this moment youre having where you realize the system doesn't work, the correct thing to do is to take it seriously and overthrow the system.

    Isnt this what they do in europe? I think that mentality would do well for americans, too bad most americans seem to be too selfish and racist to care

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    Windmaster

    Isnt this what they do in europe? I think that mentality would do well for americans, too bad most americans seem to be too selfish and racist to care

    no country in Europe is socialist man they just have a larger social safety net and better regulation. They’re all capitalist. US should definitely emulate them more tho

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    Banana Clip
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    no country in Europe is socialist man they just have a larger social safety net and better regulation. They’re all capitalist. US should definitely emulate them more tho

    no need to koolaid ded everybody starts somewhere with basic questions

  • Mar 19

    Don’t they got that socialism s*** in europe

  • Mar 19
    sponge bob

    no need to koolaid ded everybody starts somewhere with basic questions

    You’re right I don’t mean it maliciously I appreciate OP’s curiosity

  • sponge bob

    no need to koolaid ded everybody starts somewhere with basic questions

    banana nazi is a usaid shill he dont care bout none of this

  • MrMudManMood

    Capitalism's biggest flaw is that it's an exploitative, destructive system that eventually swallows and destroys everything it comes into contact with.

  • Banana Clip

    KTT solves economic systems

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    sponge bob

    but u had time to make a thread and be like “Gee why aren’t more people talking about this”

    My brother in capital, the people are talking

    Ill look into some videos on this stuff since im interested, although its kinda sad cus regardless of what i discover nothing will likely change

  • sponge bob

    also bro

    “This topic deserves a book” + “I can’t read” =

  • Snowboy

    what youre describing existed, it was called socialism. every middle class person has this moment youre having where you realize the system doesn't work, the correct thing to do is to take it seriously and overthrow the system.

    I have told multiple ppl i want to join antifa so i think im on the right track as far as becoming a revolutionary goes

  • anyway OP you seem genuinely smart so I will take your op seriously. you have stumbled upon a marxist concept called "the reserve army of labor", its an old as dirt critique of one of capitalism's basic internal contradictions which drive it toward crisis and yes, Marx and Engels wrote about it a lot.

    this why people were telling you to read Capital, it comes up in chapter 25.