Stan Smith

4y

I wouldn’t say it’s at the bottom fam because everyone is at risk of a tyrannical government and that first line of defense is the police.

Portvaldes

4y

Exactly, and good point, on a broad scale it's an everybody issue. When we enter that orwellian socialist technocracy that they're ushering us into, police will be 'just following orders' and brutalising everyone.

But for black people, where 17% of unarmed killings are black people and black people are 14% of the population, there are sooo many other long term slow burning issues that white supremacy has dropped on us, and if we don't work on untangling them, and stop acting on emotion, we will be regressing forever and ever.

The amount of black mothers who die during childbirth, the fact planned parenthood used to be called the negro project and they built sooo many of them in inner city areas, mass incarceration, the residual effects of degeneration of hiphop, higher autism rates in black boys, flint water, welfare intentionally making families fatherless, being denied our history in the curriculum and being told we're slaves

8 black people, 36 white people and like 12 hispanic people (unarmed) being killed by police a year pales in comparison im sorry to say

theDonandOnly

4y

but if for those drill artists that reflects their reality why shouldn't they make that music?

those problems existed way before drill music did. so why do people blame problems on drill that existed before drill?

and if you want people to make more positive music, then the way to do that would presumably be to make the changes people working in those communities have been asking for for years.

if anything, drill is just showing the reality of the situations that many politicians would like to ignore.

btw the right have done this with loads of genres. they've done it with reggae concerts in other decades too. it seems like a distraction to me. we'd rather have culture wars than talk about policy

drill has problems but there nothing compared to the effects of policy

DaeHan

4y

Gotcha.

And just for my clarification, how do you know this to be true of CardiB?

DEL_245

4y

who's alt is this no avi

DEL_245

4y

I don’t but I do know Candace is an opportunistic grifter who had a hard turn right after being called out for her s***ty doxxing site, she’ll fall in line with any conservative viewpoint because being a conservative grifter is easy Koch money, especially when you act as a token minority

enjoy that grift tho 🙏

Portvaldes

4y

I agree tbh, Candace definitely has to pander to her audience, doesn't mean she isnt right in this instance. What Malcolm X said here embodies exactly what Cardi B is in this situation, if you disagree I'll know it's purely pride

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1302814795910057984

DEL_245

4y

I don’t but I do know Candace is an opportunistic grifter who had a hard turn right after being called out for her s***ty doxxing site, she’ll fall in line with any conservative viewpoint because being a conservative grifter is easy Koch money, especially when you act as a token minority

enjoy that grift tho 🙏

Portvaldes

4y

You know full well that late 90s hip-hop was infected by zionist and white supremacist interests, when Fight the Power was on top of the charts they were positively reflecting their reality, poverty was just as bad but the positive would siphon to the top. Poverty is no justification for UK rappers talking about killing people in cold blood and feeling no remorse to be the primary genre for black people.

Everyone has a reality, the most popular one does not reflect the average reality and we need to amend that. Just like the community changes need to happen

nocomment

4y

orwellian socialist technocracy

DaeHan

4y

But that’s her belief.

Someone could say the same thing to you about Dems being better.

There is no “better” party.

Portvaldes

4y

Loool trust me, you don't know much. Remember that socialism always begins with a toilet paper shortage, public shaming (struggle sessions), curfews and public queues. Alinsky and Gramsci also said for socialism to be implemented, the class struggle has to be replaced by minority interest group struggles.

If it's so funny prove to me that it's not where we're heading, because I know you don't know who Yuri Bezmenov is, or Norman Dodd. Or the social engineering Huxley and Orwell were privy to while being part of the Fabian Society. Or the WHO and the rockefeller institute, or agenda 21.

Try not to have concrete opinions about things you don't understand. Go and learn instead

theDonandOnly

4y

If you're more talking about the UK there, Drill is not one of the main causes of knife crime.

Why is it spoken about like it is?

Why is it brought up like you've brought it up in a conversation about one of the worse things facing people. We all know what causes crime. If you're talking about the UK look at the stats on living standards, child poverty, food bank use, closures of community space, funding cuts and life expectancy right now. Those have got worse with record breaking increases since this government took over in 2010. It's got nothing to do with headie one and everything to do with Osbourne, May, Cameron, Boris etc.

In the UK knife crime got better in Glasgow under the Scottish administration taking action while westminster did nothing and don't get me wrong there's criticisms i could make of the snp but they did something at least. That could have changed i haven't been there in a few years.

Those are the real threats, not people making the music kids want, even if you think they're immoral.

Also, Public Enemy was 80s, the most popular 90s rappers were often gangsta rap, but they're now revered as great artists. If you're talking about UK, people said this exact thing about Grime, now people like Kano are national treasures and seen as some of the best british writers, performers and actors of their generation.

Portvaldes

4y

Post an arm pic, a real black person would know police brutality is nearly at the bottom of actual black issues that white supremacy and zionism are perpetuating on us. And that the psychological mobilisation and constant manipulation via fear and anger, is higher on the list.

Portvaldes

4y

Exactly, and good point, on a broad scale it's an everybody issue. When we enter that orwellian socialist technocracy that they're ushering us into, police will be 'just following orders' and brutalising everyone.

But for black people, where 17% of unarmed killings are black people and black people are 14% of the population, there are sooo many other long term slow burning issues that white supremacy has dropped on us, and if we don't work on untangling them, and stop acting on emotion, we will be regressing forever and ever.

The amount of black mothers who die during childbirth, the fact planned parenthood used to be called the negro project and they built sooo many of them in inner city areas, mass incarceration, the residual effects of degeneration of hiphop, higher autism rates in black boys, flint water, welfare intentionally making families fatherless, being denied our history in the curriculum and being told we're slaves

8 black people, 36 white people and like 12 hispanic people (unarmed) being killed by police a year pales in comparison im sorry to say

Portvaldes

4y

Loool trust me, you don't know much. Remember that socialism always begins with a toilet paper shortage, public shaming (struggle sessions), curfews and public queues. Alinsky and Gramsci also said for socialism to be implemented, the class struggle has to be replaced by minority interest group struggles.

If it's so funny prove to me that it's not where we're heading, because I know you don't know who Yuri Bezmenov is, or Norman Dodd. Or the social engineering Huxley and Orwell were privy to while being part of the Fabian Society. Or the WHO and the rockefeller institute, or agenda 21.

Try not to have concrete opinions about things you don't understand. Go and learn instead

Portvaldes

4y

I never said it is, again when people talk nowadays they're not talking to the person, they're talking to who they think they're talking to. I don't know if you've argued with people who think drill is the main cause of knife crime but I never said that.

You ignored everything I said about how I'm not excusing politicians, I'm saying drill is a contributing factor, because of course it is. Sat with my best friends little brother yesterday and listened to him boast about how he carries his rambo and wants to be like so and so drill artist. I'm saying it's a contributing factor that we need to address, it's not that hard to understands. This black whataboutism to do anything to shift agency from us is one of the reasons nothing has changed

theDonandOnly

4y

no candidate in the 2020 election wants to secretly implement socialism lmao.

this is joe biden not jeremy corbyn. even bernie just wanted what a lot of european countries look at as social democracy

Portvaldes

4y

Lmao, it's always deeper than the surface. I wouldn't be saying things like this unless I'd done a disgusting amount of research, Joe Biden is a puppet. Go and find out why Hilary Clinton was mentored by and wrote her thesis on Alinksy, why Obama was mentored by a communist paedophile, why the director of the WHO was the leader of a marxist terrorist group funded by the CCP in Ethiopia. It's a different brand of socialism that's coming, not the Jeremy Corbyn one, pay attention to how the wests trajectory is always 10 years behind and following China.

They were wearing masks 10 years ago, we're wearing masks, they are banning words and compelling speech with social credit scores, we'll see where we are in 20

nocomment

4y

yeah dude the establishment wants to give up the means of production

we're for sure living in some form of orwellian technocratic times but i dont see any sign of socialism at all