Facts

And I do, I will have to look into it, thank you for putting me on

If you were drowning for example and I saw it, jumped in the water and saved your life, does it matter why I saved you?
Maybe I just did it to become famous and I don’t give a f*** about you or your life. Wouldn’t you still want to be saved by me?

Don't get me wrong, i fully agree. Doing a good thing even if the intentions behind them aren't what they should be is still a good thing!

This is Gulbahar, not Sayragul you genocide denying a******.

I was wondering how long it would take you to show up and deny more peoples suffering. F*** American imperialism, f*** the Chinese communist party and f*** you too. If there is a god I hope they forgive for you for your words, and I also feel had that society has failed you so much you recognise the evil you know, and run into the arms of the evil you do not know

To address your claim about Ziyawundun, her story does not contradict.
You can be mentally abused without being beaten, and you can also be sterilized without being beaten, you are playing linguistic games to bend the truth you slimy f***wad. Unless you believe all abuse must be physical beating, her story has zero contradiction

Unlike Iraq the united states cannot and will not invade china, it would be suicide. This can in no way be a justification for invasion.

All of your debunking examples also hone in a limited number of individuals with somewhat conflicting stories, and you then extrapolate them to state that all allegations are falsified. You have picked a full 2 women versus the many more women claiming this has happened, hardly a conclusive debunking. Also I'll have you know the locations have not been debunked at all, they are constantly dismissed as factories or prisons but they are visible on Google maps and difficult to deny. So kindly f*** off and stop excusing crimes against humanity

^^^proof of map tampering around the sites

^^architect and author of the buzzfeed article explains technicalities

I will also state the obvious that you are going harder to bat for China than literally anyone in this thread is going to bat for America. It isnt an unpopular view that America is trash, but you take that to the extent of pretending china can do no wrong.

So in short you're a deluded tankie who is a victim of radicalisation

Before I write a long post, I'll point out the us will not invade china as instigating that war would be both domestically unpopular, and not guaranteed to be a success. There will be no second operation desert storm

Most american civilians dont like seeing their young men sent off to die. And especially in wars which would he suicide missions. To invade china america would have to fly over it and land in a f***inf desert, it would be a total suicide mission. America will not invade china

@lilyth_

Here is a Twitter account that platforms Uighurs on a variety of topics including activism, and reports of disappearances and arrests. You can view it all here

twitter.com/uyghurpulse?s=09

To address your point about google maps, the point is that the account was responding to a an attempted debunk. Chinas internal maps use a different satellite system which was used to challenge the initial claim of camp location

See my comment above which I will continue working on in response but to address this point, china is not iraq, going to war with china could be a loss. It isnt a good idea even of the public did support it, it would end terribly and is not in the strategic interest of either nation. China has nukes, America will not directly go to war with a nuclear power

The overwhelming majority of that stuff has zero mention of falun gong, it is mostly normal Uighurs. You are doing the same thing you always do which is to find the smallest links and references and use them to try debunk the whole thing as false.

Like I was able to make it through many of their posts without finding an single falun gong mention, engage in all of it or engage in none of it.

Yoube literally scrolled past countless uighur testimonials to act like a few mentions of falun gong makes thos linked to NED. you will do this about all evidence

Falun gong can be wrong that theirs a religious motive but that doesnt mean all claims of organ harvesting are false

This guy is clearly not part of falun gong

Sure, I have plenty more

Here is a source compiled by the guy who runs the bad china takes account. The account seeks to oppose genocide denialism, but also spends a lot of time attacking neocons in America like general spangler, who want to lie and promote falsehoods, because all decent people know that just because chinas does genocide, doesnt mean lying and stoking sinopjobia is moral

Here it is

wokeglobaltimes.com

It is a work in progress, and already contains a lot of in depth overviews. There is mention of the zenz report, but not to celebrate it, but to critique and evaluate it.

This does seem like an ad hominem. He says about owning tankies because tankies are the ones who tend to uncirtically defend china. You are focusing on his opposition to tankies but that isnt what makes him wrong

Bill in the UK parliament about uighur genocide being voted on